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Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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post #7

NYTimes article a few years ago on how car insurance companies were using such data. Tracking sudden stoos, driving at night, driving faster than 80 mph, etc.

As an aside… I wonder why “80 mph” was picked as an arbitrary value. In rural areas of Utah we have 80 mph posted limits and prima facie speed laws. A lot of Utah drivers regularly exceed 80 MPH and I’d argue they do so legally. It’s just a weird number for them to pick.

It's not arbitrary. In Virginia that's a guaranteed reckless driving charge.

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems you missed that part that DOES hurt us: > Exchanging private and personal user data without consent and without users being aware of it

This information allows other companies to make more informed decisions. Other companies making better decisions doesn't "hurt us".

Companies’ executives and top investors should let us see their location data then. And open up every part of their internal comms that don’t directly disclose trade secrets. At least the metadata!

It doesn’t hurt them, just lets us make better decisions, after all. There does not exist a good reason they’d object!

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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post #46

What is the rationale for going to the trouble of such a law but only banning sale, rather than all sharing?

Because the data is very helpful in pricing risk of drivers in insurance premiums. Obviously risky drivers should be charged a higher rate.

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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post #50
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Aren't those collected consensually (and pretty explicitly) as part of insurance programs?

Default opt in by most new cars with cellular connections

I wonder what default opt in would be called in other consent contexts..

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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post #29

A good start. From 2024: "A company allegedly tracked people’s visits to nearly 600 Planned Parenthood locations across 48 states and provided that data for one of the largest anti-abortion ad campaigns in the nation, according to an investigation" - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/13/planned-parenthood-...

And that's pretty much the most benign use case too.

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Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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Given the actual informed and uncoerced choice, people say no to this kind of collection and especially its sale or use for any purpose other than the explicit service they thought they were allowing it for (navigation, setting the time, etc etc). This is true for basically all information collected. I'm glad to see there is some minor protection language being included but it needs to have real teeth and get to the…

What's the limit of coercion?

Can someone provide a product that loudly says "we will sell your geolocation data" on checkout?

Is it coercion if you simply want the product?

Re: Virginia bans sale of precise geolocation data

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A good start. From 2024: "A company allegedly tracked people’s visits to nearly 600 Planned Parenthood locations across 48 states and provided that data for one of the largest anti-abortion ad campaigns in the nation, according to an investigation" - https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/13/planned-parenthood-...

It gets so awful. Here's one of the worst I remember, 2019: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/missouri-health-directo...
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