EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf] • Hacker News Board

Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by mingus88 » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 10:12 PM UTC

andrewinardeer wrote: post #19

thinkcontext wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they did resist locking it down, recall Musk making fun of concerns? They clearly don't take governance seriously, its whatever Musk is gravitating to in his filter bubble.

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https://www.npr.org/2026/01/16/nx-s1-5678965/elon-musks-x-to... - after weeks of mocking critics, X’s approach shifted only after investigations mounted

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/5689660-xai-investigat... - musk “not aware” of any naked underage images, pushing back on concerns

https://www.humanrightsresearch.org/post/a-new-form-of-gende... - musk downplays concerns and blames users and hackers

Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by Terretta » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 10:15 PM UTC

ChrisArchitect wrote: post #8

Terretta wrote: post #4

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TY! The EFF featured update / press release at https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/06/eff-and-allies-xs-ftc-... links to the letter, with color: Our response[^1] to X’s petition debunks many claims the company uses in its arguments. For example, there’s little evidence the order placed an undue financial burden on X. In our letter, we note that the compliance cost is merely “a rounding error against the $200 billion v…

Can update the link to the blog post; no need for this to be an arstechnica PDF

It didn't let me edit, I tried.

Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 10:19 PM UTC

andrewinardeer wrote: post #19

thinkcontext wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they did resist locking it down, recall Musk making fun of concerns? They clearly don't take governance seriously, its whatever Musk is gravitating to in his filter bubble.

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Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by sieabahlpark » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 10:23 PM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #14

charcircuit wrote: post #9

Why is the EFF arguing for less freedom on how computers can be used? The EFF should be against the government restricting computing freedom.

Why is the EFF arguing for less freedom on how computers can be used? The EFF should be against the government restricting computing freedom. Basic human decency?

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Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by actionfromafar » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 10:32 PM UTC

andrewinardeer wrote: post #19

thinkcontext wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they did resist locking it down, recall Musk making fun of concerns? They clearly don't take governance seriously, its whatever Musk is gravitating to in his filter bubble.

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Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by WhaleClub » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 10:35 PM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #9

Why is the EFF arguing for less freedom on how computers can be used? The EFF should be against the government restricting computing freedom.

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Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by bsder » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 10:50 PM UTC

andrewinardeer wrote: post #19

thinkcontext wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they did resist locking it down, recall Musk making fun of concerns? They clearly don't take governance seriously, its whatever Musk is gravitating to in his filter bubble.

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It's not up to the peanut gallery to disprove easily falsifiable statements from easily found public evidence.

Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by charcircuit » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 10:54 PM UTC

Jabrov wrote: post #10

charcircuit wrote: post #9

Why is the EFF arguing for less freedom on how computers can be used? The EFF should be against the government restricting computing freedom.

The letter is more about privacy, not freedom. They're arguing X is a massive privacy risk and should not get any exemptions.

>EFF's mission is to ensure that technology supports freedom, justice, and innovation for all people of the world.

The EFF's mission statement supports them prioritizing freedom and innovation over privacy.

Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by WCSTombs » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 11:09 PM UTC

charcircuit wrote: post #28

Jabrov wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The letter is more about privacy, not freedom. They're arguing X is a massive privacy risk and should not get any exemptions.

>EFF's mission is to ensure that technology supports freedom, justice, and innovation for all people of the world. The EFF's mission statement supports them prioritizing freedom and innovation over privacy.

As far as I know, EFF has always championed privacy.

Re: EFF letter to FTC on X consent order [pdf]

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Post by CSMastermind » Thu, Jul 02, 2026, 11:45 PM UTC

thinkcontext wrote: post #18

delichon wrote: post #5

> Grok AI generated large amounts of CSAM and nonconsensual intimate imagery Grok Imagine has been considerably locked down in terms of intimate imagery over the last few weeks. E.g. Harley Quinn used to be one of the easiest characters to manipulate, with or without any resemblance to Margot Robbie. No more. X still serves up explicit hardcore, and Imagine used to get at least in that neighborhood, but that has been…

But they did resist locking it down, recall Musk making fun of concerns? They clearly don't take governance seriously, its whatever Musk is gravitating to in his filter bubble.

Reddit did the same. Tumblr died when it banned porn. There seems to be a very perverse incentive for social media platforms to be as permissive as possible.

Personally, I'd be in favor of banning all sexual content on X, but it really feels like a legislative solution applying to all social media platforms might be the best solution.

And yes I realize the slippery slope that could put us on.