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Podman v6.0.0

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Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by tbocek »

SwellJoe wrote: post #4

No idea why Docker is still so much more popular than Podman. Podman is obviously the better implementation. The new network stuff is a welcome improvement.

Just today, I tried to run docker compose on a remote host via podman-docker on Fedora (Asahi). I ran into all sorts of buildx issues, and the easiest fix for me was to remove podman and install docker instead.

I tried working through it with Claude, but after a few failed attempts I gave up. I'd like to use podman, but the docker compose + buildx compatibility gaps made it more trouble than it was worth for now. I'm definitely going to try it again.

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by gdevenyi »

SwellJoe wrote: post #4

No idea why Docker is still so much more popular than Podman. Podman is obviously the better implementation. The new network stuff is a welcome improvement.

Because they don't publish up to date packages for major distros.

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by audidude »

Does it still completely screw up file/group owners in user containers? Because they keep saying it gets fixed and then that 1 out of 10 times it's not.

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by Keyframe »

roger_ wrote: post #6

Anyone have experience switching from Docker to Podman? I have a lot of compose files in my homelab/automation setup and those are what I’m most concerned about.

Yeah pretty much no big issues in moving over. Even ctop works for which I really wish there was a replacement since it's not updated anymore.

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by tsoukase »

jdoe1337halo wrote: post #51

I'd love to switch to Podman but I use Coolify for all of my deployments and it is Docker based, so I am kind of locked into that ecosystem for now

There is the podman-docker package that seamlessly emulates docker using podman. Eg for Arch Linux https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/podman-docker/

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by hoppp »

SwellJoe wrote: post #4

No idea why Docker is still so much more popular than Podman. Podman is obviously the better implementation. The new network stuff is a welcome improvement.

We need to popularize a "podman btw" meme based on the arch meme.

So any time people talk about docker someone can go:

I use podman btw

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by esseph »

todotask2 wrote: post #50
SwellJoe wrote: post #4

No idea why Docker is still so much more popular than Podman. Podman is obviously the better implementation. The new network stuff is a welcome improvement.

One advantage of Docker is reliable host-to-container file change notifications, allowing tools like Vite inside the container to detect changes. Podman and many alternatives don’t handle this well for our web development on macOS. Not even Tart or Apple Container support it, as far as I know. Maybe someone has found a way.

> don’t handle this well for our web development on macOS

In general this seems to be a common complaint here. If you're developing with cloud runners or on linux infra you won't run into this, but on macOS for local development it is impactful.

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by hoppp »

theK wrote: post #56
SwellJoe wrote: post #4

No idea why Docker is still so much more popular than Podman. Podman is obviously the better implementation. The new network stuff is a welcome improvement.

Last time I checked podman compose was only a superficial docker compose equivalent. Also stuff like inotify seems to randomly break a lot on the podman side. I'd love to be able to recommend people use podman but not having a good docker compose compatibility and missing inotify on volumes makes the DX just too problematic.

Check again? I don't have any issues like this and use podman compose in prod.

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by satvikpendem »

spockz wrote: post #33
SwellJoe wrote: post #4

No idea why Docker is still so much more popular than Podman. Podman is obviously the better implementation. The new network stuff is a welcome improvement.

I think a stronger brand name. Also on macOS I found Docker Desktop to be more straightforward. Also lately it has been very error prone. Randomly failing at mounting files, or cleaning up networking rules, or suddenly becoming bog slow so I have to restart the VM. Podman on macOS feels miles less refined. Orbstack is a way better choice. I only use podman on Linux and there it is blazing fast. Even so, most features…

I like OrbStack for macOS, much faster.

Re: Podman v6.0.0

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Post by debugnik »

theK wrote: post #56
SwellJoe wrote: post #4

No idea why Docker is still so much more popular than Podman. Podman is obviously the better implementation. The new network stuff is a welcome improvement.

Last time I checked podman compose was only a superficial docker compose equivalent. Also stuff like inotify seems to randomly break a lot on the podman side. I'd love to be able to recommend people use podman but not having a good docker compose compatibility and missing inotify on volumes makes the DX just too problematic.

You can use actual docker-compose with podman, the -compose projects are separate from podman/docker.

podman-compose never worked well for me but docker-compose on podman did.

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