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Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise

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Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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It matters over time. The old kooks die off and are replaced with people who are relatively sane until they find new things to be old kooks about.

Unfortunately a large number of the "kooks" are GenX and younger.

I don't know if you noticed but genX got old when we weren't looking.

Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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Are government officials, like goveners or their health departments held to similar standards? I think this was the direction of their desire.

Yes. That's the entire multi-stage FDA approval process, including in EUA cases.

no, no it isnt a requirement on what a politican or government employee says or what data accompanys it.

I think there is a fundamental misscommunication going on.

Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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Find me a Public health commercial or flyer that links to the VAERS/AEMS/MDR database? Can you find one that even links to the trial results?

VAERS is a super early signal self-reported database, why on earth would anyone link to it for public consumption? Should they also link to reddit.com/r/hypochondriac? VAERS should exist and researcher should (and do) pay attention to it, but it's absolutely not anything close to an actual source of actual information. Trial results, yes, the literal vaccine recommendation bulletins link to their backing data: https:…

Is that a mass consumption commercial or flyer?

Im not claiming data is never presented.

Im not claiming data is never available.

Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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I am a doctor. Pfizer Covid vaccine gave me a left leg DVT plus a peripheral neuropathy. I will never take another mRNA vaccine again.

There are peer-reviewed case reports for both DVT and neuropathy related to Pfizer's mRNA COVID-19 vaccine, but they are consistently described as 'rare' or 'extremely rare' across sources/studies. As a doctor (if you actually are one), you should know better than to perpetuate anecdotal evidence.

Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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Two things can be true: Big Pharma can be evil, and their products are much better vetted for safety and efficacy than random peptides sourced form mystery factories.

and do you really think a significant percentage of forced vaccination detractors are taking mystery peptides? have there been studies, or are you vibing this guess off snarky reddit comments?

Of course there's a huge overlap, but perhaps more significantly is that RFK Jr. who is in charge of the entire regulatory structure is both an anti-scientific anti-vaxxer and wants to tear down the safety and efficacy regulations around peptides at the same time:

https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/06/rfk-jr-stacks-fda-pan...

Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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post #427

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Yes. That's the entire multi-stage FDA approval process, including in EUA cases.

no, no it isnt a requirement on what a politican or government employee says or what data accompanys it. I think there is a fundamental misscommunication going on.

Are you talking about the actions of governors and their state health departments? Or communications?

It was unclear what your gripe was.

Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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Okay got it, I didn't expect that was what you were taking issue with. At least in the US, we were constantly being told by our government leadership that we all needed to take the vaccine to stop the spread. Fauci, for example, claimed very early on that we needed herd immunity and would get thee with around a 60% vaccination rate. He both knew that number was too low for the hypothesis of herd immunity, raising it…

> They would go so far as to say unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed into hospitals for care for unrelated health conditions. Do you believe that someone with unmanaged ebola or measles should be allowed to go into a hospital for a broken toe? Obviously there are possible pathogens for which this is a totally sensible position, and under uncertainty and strained resources the bar to get there gets much much lowe…

You're raising drastically different scenarios in what I'm pretty sure would be a strawman argument, though yes people with Ebola do still get medical treatment. They are generally isolated and/or treated at a temporary unit setup during an Ebola outbreak, they aren't told no at the door because they're sick.

Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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Nobody's used state power to mandate peptides and social media censorship to reports of adverse effects. As many of us said at the time, the mandates weren't worth the destruction of public trust, especially because the vaccine wasn't even sterilizing. The next time there's a crisis, resist the urge to use the government to achieve outcomes by brute force. It doesn't work and has generational adverse consequences.

https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/06/rfk-jr-stacks-fda-pan...

> As many of us said at the time, the mandates weren't worth the destruction of public trust

Public trust was not dissolved by the actions of the government, it was dissolved by propagandists cynically using falsehoods and half-truths to gain power. That's it.

People don't distrust science because of anything scientists did, it's all because of the propagandists and the easily tricked and the political grifters.

All of your accusations are, in the very best possible light, half truths, but in reality they are just lies. I think the rational part of society is tired of treating liars with kid gloves. The pandemic was a traumatic experience for all, and extra social graces were extended for a while for those who impose upon kind and polite people with their weird beliefs, but we've moved past that moment.

Truth does matter!

Re: Global review confirms mRNA vaccines are safe, effective and full of promise 

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> They would go so far as to say unvaccinated people shouldn't be allowed into hospitals for care for unrelated health conditions. Do you believe that someone with unmanaged ebola or measles should be allowed to go into a hospital for a broken toe? Obviously there are possible pathogens for which this is a totally sensible position, and under uncertainty and strained resources the bar to get there gets much much lowe…

You're raising drastically different scenarios in what I'm pretty sure would be a strawman argument, though yes people with Ebola do still get medical treatment. They are generally isolated and/or treated at a temporary unit setup during an Ebola outbreak, they aren't told no at the door because they're sick.

At the time people were talking about restricting COVID visitors, we really didn't know if we were dealing with something most similar to a seasonal cold, a serious flu, or the Spanish flu.

> They are generally isolated and/or treated at a temporary unit setup during an Ebola outbreak, they aren't told no at the door because they're sick.

Obviously this would be the result of not allowing unvaccinated people into hospitals. It is literally illegal in this country for us to simply "tell them no at the door."

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