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Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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moral clarity usually sharpens the moment the last RSU hits the brokerage account

Alphabet dropped “don’t be evil” from its moto in 2015. This guy went in knowing how the sausage was being made.

Maybe they should not have joined the company in the first place if they had "morals" or "principles". Yet they still joined in 2017 even after knowing that slogan was removed anyway.

Company mottos, principles, slogans and values are all fake fronts to lure in these sort of people alongside the free food with the carrots on those sticks.

Once that all runs out or the company goes south and stops being a daycare, then they start doing silly virtue signalling posts like this.

Now you are seeing who was there for the 'good vibes', free food, rest n' vest and who was there to keep the company alive.

...And finally we know that this is a love letter to get themselves hired at Anthropic. I think you might need more than that honestly.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Whilst I appreciate the commitment to their values, I wonder where they stand on the 'safety' of their users as it relates to the Android Developer Verification update (currently top of HN, here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48755965 ). "Security" vs Openness > “make things so secure that we ourselves can’t break them, whether the device costs $1000 or $100, or the user is a celebrity or a refugee“ That can m…

That is wasn't even covered says enough for me.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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"Don't be evil" was just a diversion from a path that was laid out from the beginning. And it worked --- for a while. Until the path became impossible to deny.

Yeah, I'm sure the "don't be evil" charade was good marketing from the get-go or else they would've never taken In-Q-Tel funding.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Darker than what other point in America’s history?

Perhaps darker than the initial mild optimism of the early internet.

It is easy to forget US history as the vast majority of us have only been exposed to the 1960s to 2000s era which in retrospect seem like an anomaly.

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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moral clarity usually sharpens the moment the last RSU hits the brokerage account

Sometimes.

Sometimes not.

I left with more than 4 million in RSU's left.

Pretty much any Googler who leaves will be leaving lots of money on the table.

This is because they are usually 3/4 year grants, so it's pretty much impossible to leave without lots of unvested RSU.

There are some 1 year grants, but those are much more uncommon (~1%)

Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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This mirrors my own experience as a European that worked at FAANG in the Bay Area. It used to be a dream job. Now I've relocated back to Europe and want nothing to do with American Big Tech. It's become toxic and completely counter to my values. America has become a much darker place that has a very different place in the world. American tech companies have not just accepted, but actively embraced this transition. I…

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Re: Why I'm Forced to Say Farewell: Google Management Has Lost Its Moral Compass

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps darker than the initial mild optimism of the early internet.

It is easy to forget US history as the vast majority of us have only been exposed to the 1960s to 2000s era which in retrospect seem like an anomaly.

It's an interesting time window you chose. Why would there be an anomaly during that window (if there is one)?

Perhaps it is due to the outward-facing, civic-oriented values coming out of WW2?

There was a lot of reflection in America on what went wrong in German pre-war thinking and culture coming out of that period.

The WW2 men in their 20s in 1940 were in their 40s in 1960s and their political power would have kept growing through peer older politicians into the 90s.

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