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Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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post #26

I'm still a little bit confused why the EU does not take action in this. This is definitely a monopolist overreach which has to be shutdown from the beginning

Indeed. I wonder if it falls foul of labour law. Blacklisting is illegal and whitelisting (certification) is normally done with multiple competing third party certifiers.

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought the same thing but he apparently has a point. The stated purpose covers only a tiny sliver of the capabilities. The agreement points to the TOS where it (last time I looked) says service may be terminated at any time without stating a reason. Nothing guarantees it won't be used for things other than security. And finally he has a point where it also doesn't really do much for security. If we ask their fine…

Isn’t Google going to do what Apple has been doing since forever? Or is Google somehow doing something worse?

I bought an android instead of an apple because I didn't want the kind of malware apple has always shipped with idevices

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no spin here. Google is pulling up the ladder. There won't be an open web, there won't be user installs, there won't be anonymity. Everything will be identified, attested, and allowed only when Google permits it. Nevermind them choking startups and small biz out of the oxygen they need to survive.

What are talking about? Android Device Verification has nothing to do with what websites browsers can access.

It does with reCaptcha: https://www.androidauthority.com/grapheneos-google-apple-app...

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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post #39
post #19

Android users need to switch to Graphene. Someone needs to create a Linux based mobile OS foundation - Google's domination is contrary to many large companies interests, and if Meta and many other such companies were approached, they may well donate large sums of money in their own strategic interests.

The only reason I have not switched Graphene is because for reasons I do not understand, Graphene OS is very closely tied with Google hardware. I bought a /e/os Fairphone instead.

Give it a year, we may have GrapheneOS/Motorola then ...

* (March 2026) Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation - https://motorolanews.com/motorola-three-new-b2b-solutions-at...

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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This is not malware. It's an official part of Google Play Services.

It all depends on how you define malware. If malware is software doing something that is contrary to the user's interests, then for many users it is indeed malware.

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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post #19

Android users need to switch to Graphene. Someone needs to create a Linux based mobile OS foundation - Google's domination is contrary to many large companies interests, and if Meta and many other such companies were approached, they may well donate large sums of money in their own strategic interests.

I keep hoping for something more radical like Jolla and SailfishOS taking off or postmarketOS becoming a true viable alternative but as things are looking like now there's a better chance we'll ditch phones altogether in 10 years when smart glasses will replace them instead.

Honestly don't think that would be so terrible, with how bad and locked down the mobile ecosystem has gotten.

Rolling the dice on a new technology could wind up being much more favorable.

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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post #34

This would be the line for me. If at some point I'm unable to build an .apk and install it on my phone without Google letting me, I'm moving to Huawei.

Does Huawei not use android or Google play services?

No, Google is barred from providing any services to them by the US government.
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