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Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Post by Arnt »

khurs wrote: post #19

Android users need to switch to Graphene. Someone needs to create a Linux based mobile OS foundation - Google's domination is contrary to many large companies interests, and if Meta and many other such companies were approached, they may well donate large sums of money in their own strategic interests.

I know Graphene has innovative security measures, do you happen to know whether that includes anything wrt. phishing or social engineering?

(For those who haven't been following along: this whole affair started with phishing. People were social-engineered into installing an app and a little later their bank accounts were empty. A big issue in various poor countries.)

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Post by cromka »

hkgvk wrote: post #39
khurs wrote: post #19

Android users need to switch to Graphene. Someone needs to create a Linux based mobile OS foundation - Google's domination is contrary to many large companies interests, and if Meta and many other such companies were approached, they may well donate large sums of money in their own strategic interests.

The only reason I have not switched Graphene is because for reasons I do not understand, Graphene OS is very closely tied with Google hardware. I bought a /e/os Fairphone instead.

Those reasons are explained clearly and openly. Ironically, your /o/OS is way less open than GOS on Google hardware.

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Post by hurfdurf »

wolfi1 wrote: post #26

I'm still a little bit confused why the EU does not take action in this. This is definitely a monopolist overreach which has to be shutdown from the beginning

But they did. EU formally allows all these measures by Google in the name of "security" as described in Digital Markets Act Art. 6 (4) fourth paragraph.

https://www.eu-digital-markets-act.com/Digital_Markets_Act_A...

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Post by dminik »

ranger_danger wrote: post #3

> How long before they designate all ad-blocking software as malware, block installation on all Android certified devices worldwide, and permanently designate all developers of this class of software as malware creators? Classic slippery slope fallacy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope History shows that when a "slope" appears... regulation steps in, technology evolves to solve the problem, or the culture…

Is it a fallacy if you've said before that Google is aiming to create a walled garden, Google itself has already started saying it wants a walled garden and they've already implemented several such steps?

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Post by foxrider »

aerzen wrote: post #34
foxrider wrote: post #23

This would be the line for me. If at some point I'm unable to build an .apk and install it on my phone without Google letting me, I'm moving to Huawei.

Does Huawei not use android or Google play services?

No, they use AppGallery and HMS.

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Post by animuchan »

aerzen wrote: post #34
foxrider wrote: post #23

This would be the line for me. If at some point I'm unable to build an .apk and install it on my phone without Google letting me, I'm moving to Huawei.

Does Huawei not use android or Google play services?

It's Android but without Google's services, there's an alternative app store.

The irony of Chinese vendors providing a breath of fresh low-DRM air.

Re: Android Developer Verification: Threat masquerading as protection

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Post by aquariusDue »

khurs wrote: post #19

Android users need to switch to Graphene. Someone needs to create a Linux based mobile OS foundation - Google's domination is contrary to many large companies interests, and if Meta and many other such companies were approached, they may well donate large sums of money in their own strategic interests.

I keep hoping for something more radical like Jolla and SailfishOS taking off or postmarketOS becoming a true viable alternative but as things are looking like now there's a better chance we'll ditch phones altogether in 10 years when smart glasses will replace them instead.
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