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ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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post #278

For anyone who uses GPT-5.5/Codex as their daily driver, how does GLM-5.2/ZCode compare, esp in a codebase already set up for agentic coding?

TLDR GLM will take a lot longer to do a task, and maybe spend more tokens depending how complex it is

Its a hell of a lot cheaper though, so for me its worth it. I have more claude experience though, and I would say its almost en par with Opus 4.1

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

why did you switch from oc to pi?

i like the more minimal design of the tui, feels more integrated with my existing terminal workflows. oc always looked a little out of place. i really like pi's extension ecosystem as well.

Same here. Moving from OC to Pi also taught me one more time that less is more and I don't need most of the features I thought I needed.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The US is not authoritarian. But in terms of surveillance and privacy violations, we’ve really pushed it to the absolute limit. All of your communications are effectively tapped, especially since the US government can coerce private companies without letting you know. There are very few exceptions, and of those that exist virtually all are under existential threat constantly.

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Which government are these? The ones you just made up?

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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post #278

For anyone who uses GPT-5.5/Codex as their daily driver, how does GLM-5.2/ZCode compare, esp in a codebase already set up for agentic coding?

GLM 5.2 is in an uncanny valley where it's too big to run at home, too expensive and slow in comparison to similarly capable model (a good chart here - https://deepswe.datacurve.ai/), and that's just comparing API prices.

When looking at subscription offering by Anthropic and OpenAI, it's not even comparable, as a Codex $200 subscription can easily use a billion tokens per week on GPT 5.5 high/xhigh.

It's an interesting model from the perspective of being the most capable open weight model. But it doesn't have a solid place in this marketplace right now.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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post #278

For anyone who uses GPT-5.5/Codex as their daily driver, how does GLM-5.2/ZCode compare, esp in a codebase already set up for agentic coding?

TLDR GLM will take a lot longer to do a task, and maybe spend more tokens depending how complex it is Its a hell of a lot cheaper though, so for me its worth it. I have more claude experience though, and I would say its almost en par with Opus 4.1

It's cheaper if you pay API prices. If you pay a gpt sub then codex is much much cheaper.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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I'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).

I don't even know what I would do with a desktop app. I'm running these things in headless VMs, so I can run them with `--dangerously-skip-permissions` or whatever. I don't trust them, even without that flag, on my desktop/laptop.

I've contributed to https://github.com/0xferrous/agent-box which allows you to bind-mount git repositories into containers that agents operate in, preventing the agents from accessing files that aren't bind-mounted. Your usual .gitignore can then be used to also ignore files within the repo to be bind-mounted, which prevents agents from accessing them at all, essentially working as a sandbox.

I also maintain https://github.com/nothingnesses/agent-images which allows you to use Nix to reproducibly spin up OCI container images containing agents and any other tools you need for development and use these with agent-box.

I use both at the moment to work on some personal projects with agents, where I set up multiple separate git worktrees for the agents to work in, preventing them from accessing anything outside of the worktrees and from trampling over each other's work.

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