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Senior SWE-Bench: open-source benchmark that assesses agents as senior engineers

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Re: Senior SWE-Bench: open-source benchmark that assesses agents as senior engineers

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Why didn't they just make it "Staff SWE-Bench", would be much better smh. /s

But seriously, as an industry we're terrible at assessing engineering levels, I've worked with "senior engineers" who can't code and I've worked with "junior engineers" who could run rings around them.

Benchmarks like this should be much more precise about what they're actually testing, and what axes they're hard on. We also need to rise above prompts like "you are a senior engineer", it's woo, and it's far better to ask for precise outcomes.

Re: Senior SWE-Bench: open-source benchmark that assesses agents as senior engineers

#4

Top solve rate is currently 24% with Opus 4.8... What's a competent human supposed to score?

presumably whatever the top model uses and then some, since the human can use the model.

I wonder if a model could score higher if it had a human at its disposal?

Re: Senior SWE-Bench: open-source benchmark that assesses agents as senior engineers

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Why didn't they just make it "Staff SWE-Bench", would be much better smh. /s But seriously, as an industry we're terrible at assessing engineering levels, I've worked with "senior engineers" who can't code and I've worked with "junior engineers" who could run rings around them. Benchmarks like this should be much more precise about what they're actually testing, and what axes they're hard on. We also need to rise abo…

As someone who's trying to get better assessments, I'm struggling to come up with objective coding tasks that evaluates all aspects of real life like planning, design choices, problem solving and context usage. From your experience with humans, Do you have any recommendations on what could be effective in measuring it?

Re: Senior SWE-Bench: open-source benchmark that assesses agents as senior engineers

#7

Benchmarks are great, but I feel like there’s a better way this seems quite subjective. What you really need is an objective benchmark

> What you really need is an objective benchmark

"When are all the software engineers unemployed?"

Re: Senior SWE-Bench: open-source benchmark that assesses agents as senior engineers

#8
> You are a senior SWE-Bench reviewer, make no mistakes.

I don't know what a better approach would look like while still remaining feasible, however this approach of telling a LLM to make a subjective judgement seems fundamentally flawed.

Re: Senior SWE-Bench: open-source benchmark that assesses agents as senior engineers

#9

Benchmarks are great, but I feel like there’s a better way this seems quite subjective. What you really need is an objective benchmark

I actually really like subjective benchmarks, so long as it's a human (ideally me) grading the results. LLM as judge never made much sense.
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