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Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

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Curious that you include REI. It's a retail coop model, not a worker-owned coop. Apropos: the way they ended the REI Adventures program is behavior consistent with a normal big-box chain. That is, announce the end simultaneously to their customers and REI's partner adventure companies, provide refunds to customers, but don't forward the relevant same customer info to the partners for rebooking because that's REI's pr…

REI changed about 25 years ago and it took a while for people to notice/the changes to filter through enough. Was talking recently about similar changes with MEC in Canada with a family friend who joined MEC as member 200-250. He had a chance to be in the first ~25 members but wasn't sure they'd still exist in a year.

I think there still is value in a retail coop model but I think REI strayed from the area where it could work well. They may not have been able to run forever without changing but the way it has changed is a bit sad to see. I suspect there has to be a strong mission statement and way to hold to it for a retail coop to thrive long term. Or maybe just to keep the size small enough to avoid some of the harder questions.

Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

#42
post #40

Curious that you include REI. It's a retail coop model, not a worker-owned coop. Apropos: the way they ended the REI Adventures program is behavior consistent with a normal big-box chain. That is, announce the end simultaneously to their customers and REI's partner adventure companies, provide refunds to customers, but don't forward the relevant same customer info to the partners for rebooking because that's REI's pr…

> what is the social benefit of worker-owned No capital-risking, and then rent-seeking, middleman, if I’m following.

I think they're saying "If REI makes the list because this is common in the space, what is the benefit of worker owned?" in trying to bolster the case that REI should not be listed.

If many of the worker-owned co-ops would prevent access to relevant customer data to prevent individual workers from developing relations with customer without the co-op in the middle, then that's something that could potentially be addressed by other co-ops in that you could deliberately structure it such that the co-op is either optionally or deliberately a platform for fostering worker/customer interactions rather than co-op/customer interactions.

Because if the co-op exists for the sake of the co-op while splitting profit with the workers, that is different from a co-op that exists solely to maximally aid the individual workers.

Kind of like the back/front of house tip debate. Should chefs be payed as tipped salaries? Should we all get regular wages and evenly split tips? Even in front of house, if Sarah is consistently pulling twice my average tips, it's not really fair to her (or technically her customers) that we split tips because the customers were so taken by her service that they wanted to assist her whereas I'm just some random person from their point of view and contributed nothing to her customers from her point of view. The analogy is that the company wants to split the tips because it benefits them by allowing them to more easily retain employees in situations where they feel it's worth keeping the ones that aren't getting big tips because their performance is "good enough" and they don't want the spend on hiring to replace - the benefit is too the company and the 'worse' wait staff, not the one who's actually responsible for the value add.

Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

#43

Curious that you include REI. It's a retail coop model, not a worker-owned coop. Apropos: the way they ended the REI Adventures program is behavior consistent with a normal big-box chain. That is, announce the end simultaneously to their customers and REI's partner adventure companies, provide refunds to customers, but don't forward the relevant same customer info to the partners for rebooking because that's REI's pr…

Appreciate the feedback and the info. I included REI in the directory (labeled as customer co-op not a worker co-op) but not in the search results but now I realize that's lame. I'm just gonna take them off entirely.

Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

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I read this post while sitting at Broken Clock Brewing here in Minneapolis, one of the 13 listed and my favorite brewery. There are actually 2 in my city. I actually picked up an ownership card and anyone can buy in for $200, but dividends don't start to pay out until some indefinite point where the voting owners decide the business can sustain it.

https://www.brokenclockbrew.com/

https://www.workerowned.info/marketplace/beer-brewing

Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

#46

Neat project and I love the motivations behind it. A few friendly recommendations: • The images on the results pages are in desperate need of optimization. Plenty of 500KB+ thumbnails and even a couple 2MB+ thumbnails I saw in there. Could easily be optimized 90%+ with no loss of quality • The instant live search can be a little distracting, particularly paired with the heavy loading of the thumbnails • I know you do…

Would also like geographical filtering for both local delivery (shipping emissions) and "can I go there"

Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

#47

Nice site! Maybe add link correction? Sometimes I found myself going to sites and though target landing page was wrong or out-of-date, surfing the site a bit, found similar or same product still offered. Would have to have some way of trusting / verifying the corrections but some people would find it satisfying to offer fix the bad links I bet.

yeah still lots of cleaning up. it's a little like wack-a-mole and i'm hoping users will find stuff and submit it.

Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

#48
post #8

I wonder of there is a version of this but for jobs?

+100... I'd love to find a spot at a tech co-op but they seem as common as a hen's tooth.

I founded a software engineering co-op. We're always interested in finding new members. https://508.dev

Right now our main revenue is through subcontracting, and admittedly we haven't pulled a fresh gig in a couple months, mostly because most of us are working a gig which limits our ability to BD - a limitation we've been kicking around how to resolve for ages.

We want to come up with some alternative revenue streams that aren't directly selling our labor. I soft launched one recently (a mock interview thing that I'm not quite ready to link completely publicly) but I'm also really interested in ideas other people have.

My goal for the co-op has been to make it a greater than sum of parts actualizer for each of our potentials. So far it's been pretty good on that front but for me the big win is gonna be if we can get a revenue generating project out.

Anyway, rambling. Feel free to reply with questions or email me (email is better since I'm trying to stay off HN due to internet comment addiction). https://508.dev/join has more info on joining.

Random fun fact: all our internal SaaS is FOSS and self hosted! Excluding discord. Matrix didn't work well for us.

Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

#49

I took a brief look at some of the products like coffee and im not sure they are competitive. What exactly is the premium coming from ?

Real coffee beans not genetically engineered to grow fast with caffeine densities high enough to make explosives out of.

Re: Show HN: Searchable directory of 22k+ products from worker-owned co-ops

#50

https://catalyticsound.com/artists/ I never thought I'd see anything like that easily accessible on hacker news. (Edit: I say that because this is a project by independent artists that has no real hope for commercial exit -- monetize free jazz, I dare you. Edit: actually don't, please.)

>monetize free jazz, I dare you. Edit: actually don't, please.

I was going to say, I think youtube/spotify et al have been doing this for years, just slap ads on it.

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