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ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by chrisweekly »

SwellJoe wrote: post #171
scorpioxy wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is the trust concern for the agent running in any form on your machine? Like in a VM on your machine as well or do you mean on the host itself? I have read about people giving an agent full access to their main system saying they have nothing of value. To me, that's a strange opinion to have with the distinction between what's private and what's secret.

I don't run agents directly on my desktop/laptop machine. I run them in VMs or containers (sometimes in containers on VMs). There have been too many credentials stealing exploits via prompt injection and the like for me to be willing to let an agent roam around on my personal system. I've also started creating new github deploy keys for each repo in use on a VM, so the blast area for any given agent disaster is "a co…

Have you seen smolvm (from smolmachines)?

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by jen20 »

csomar wrote: post #216
SwellJoe wrote: post #101

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But, it's still running on my desktop/laptop. I don't trust them to run on my machine. But, I guess I could run one VM with a desktop to contain the desktop app. Or, just keep using CLI agents.

I mean, if the execution happen on the VM then the problem is trust on the programs and then you can't trust any program by that logic? That or you think AI-companies software is serious slop.

Slop is less of a problem than the incentive such companies have to “accidentally” hoover up whatever data is accessible.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

bermudi wrote: post #218
LaurensBER wrote: post #38

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They might be sending some user requests to Anthropic to gather trading data for their own models. If they do so, perhaps they need to add some tracer to request that they prefer to hide.

I wonder if you're as cynical and untrustworthy of American companies as well or is it more of a racism kinda thing

Everyone should distrust them equally. Only local agents in a detached network namespace are safe from data leaks. It is perfectly reasonable to assume they are using our sessions to train on, since everything else short of nuclear launch codes is already there, and they need to keep feeding it.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by MrDrMcCoy »

cco wrote: post #124
seizethecheese wrote: post #11

I'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).

You're surprised? I think harnesses are almost as important as the underlying model. Folks have been able to improve benchmark results by nearly 2x based on harness alone. Harnesses are quickly becoming critical components of the "model" itself imo. Not shocking to me at all that a company that spots a revenue opportunity is keeping its harness closed source.

I'm a neophyte. What makes a harness special or all that unique from another? I've had a reasonable experience with Zed and local models, but could be persuaded to put something else in the mix if there is a measurable benefit to be had.

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by computerex »

MarceloHenry wrote: post #179
zackify wrote: post #176

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I got around 17m tokens on glm 5.2 then blocked for 4 days on the weekly limit on that plan.

17M tokens... I think it is a lot. What were you working on?

Not really. I have spent 163M deepseek v4 flash tokens in July and it literally just started.

https://i.postimg.cc/MHhgwsv0/image.png

Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2

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Post by Terretta »

yogthos wrote: post #225
vinceguidry wrote: post #223

Has anyone come up with a decent harness for small local models, say, gemma4 e4b? I'm trying to roll my own but man, the capability gap is real.

This is precisely what I've been working on targeting with https://dirge-code.github.io/ I've written up an explanation of what trips small models ups and how the harness can address that here https://yogthos.net/posts/2026-06-08-dirge-code.html

This really resonates. Thanks for mentioning.
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