Is there any desktop coding app that can be used with local LLM?
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ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
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Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
#202Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
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I am not surprised it is not open source. These harnesses are hard to build - they are not just wrappers - and often they contain business logic that is not suitable for public distribution for all kinds of reasons.
hard? wut lol.... no. they. are. not. Some people are just terrible at it.
I was thinking the same and I changed my mind.
Also you don't need to believe me. There is enough evidence in the open source space.
Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
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Peak hours are 14:00–18:00 (UTC+8) https://docs.z.ai/devpack/overview
Thanks. Those are some odd hours though, why would evening time be peak hours? Usually (in the western world anyway), 9AM - 12PM would be peak hours. Things normally slow down post-lunch, and be its slowest at close-of-business.
I run a corporate AI server and coding peak hours here are 1PM-5PM judging by AI usage stats. My guess is that people spend 9AM-12PM in meetings and at lunch, and the actual coding starts around 1 PM.
Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
#205When the harnesses commoditize, it will be the dynamic things like skills that will be the most valuable, useful thing you can bring to a harness. That seems like a long ways away though. There are still meaningful performance differences between agent harnesses.
Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
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When running the app, it actually tells you what the base usages are, but the name of the plans are different from the page. It reads: Start plan: 5 Million tokens a day (GLM-5.2 3M, GLM-5 Turbo 2M) For individuals: (+150% quota) $18.00USD+ For individual developers with a dedicated Coding Plan quota.
Now, if only we can figure out what all the others are providing as part of their subscriptions we can compare. (Though 3 million tokens of the top model per day seems kinda low. But, I guess that's what the 5x plan is for. I'd still like to be able to compare against all the big providers.)
You can just track the tokens used in Claude Code and codex until you hit the limit?
Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
#207I'm somewhat surprised that this is not open source (from what I can tell). Compare to Mimo Code https://github.com/XiaomiMiMo/MiMo-Code (which is a CLI, while this is a desktop app).
They might be sending some user requests to Anthropic to gather trading data for their own models. If they do so, perhaps they need to add some tracer to request that they prefer to hide.
or more likely, sending it to the CCP
Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
#208Does anyone use an agnostic TUI or harness for development tasks that can fairly seamlessly switch between providers? I'm wanting local context in the spirit of "here are 3 AI providers available, for coding tasks use this one... and for writing prose use this one... and for generating images use this one..." etc.
have used both pi and opencode for the last 6 months, haven't opened a proprietary harness (cc, codex, cursor) in that same amount of time. right now i'm on pi and i can switch seamlessly between any model across any provider i want, even mid session. can even point them at locally running models. i think people don't realize how much better life is over on this side, cc and codex rely entirely on vendor lock in imo.
Are you using openrouter or something else?
Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
#209I don't find a closed-source Chinese agent system trustworthy. It is essentially a black box with full user permissions, meaning you are just handing over your entire system to a Chinese-owned server. With OpenCode and its GLM provider, at least I can monitor which files were read, which were edited, and what commands were executed. Not to mention that Chinese national security laws legally obligate companies to coop…
I'm in the US. The benefit of the Chinese spying on me vs a US company is the Chinese can't come to my door and take me to jail.
Re: ZCode – Harness for GLM-5.2
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
They might be sending some user requests to Anthropic to gather trading data for their own models. If they do so, perhaps they need to add some tracer to request that they prefer to hide.
or more likely, sending it to the CCP
Californian Communist Party?