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Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Hilariously, DVD production could potentially outlive Blu-Ray discs, since DVDs are still popular enough 30 years later, and surpass the sales of Blu-Ray movies.

That will last only as long as boomers are still around watching movies.

I'm Gen Z and I buy DVDs (though mostly second hand). You're probably right on the whole, though I've only observed the opposite.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Well, if Nintendo and Microsoft go the same route (and sadly, I see that being almost inevitable at some point), that's probably the end of my interest in gaming as a whole. I generally refuse to 'rent' or 'license' things on a temporary basis, and have decided in this generation that every game I'll get for Switch 2 will be a physical game on cart version, without exception. And the reasons for that are pretty simpl…

> Microsoft go the same route

There's a reason Game Pass and the Series S exist, they just hadn't had the courage to say the quiet part loud yet.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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I feel this in my bones and it's a great way to frame it. My last Playstation console was a PS2 and I've also opted out of recent generations. Historically, for me, one of the benefits of a console was that you could just pop the game in, and it would always work, simply and easily. DRM, online checks, DLC that should have been part of the base game, digital-only games, etc have ruined all that, and if that's going t…

You can resell game key cards, at least? They seem better than digital copies to me. And first party games are still on cartridge for the most part.

> You can resell game key cards, at least?

Sure, unless the game is no longer available for download, in which case the key card is a worthless piece of plastic to anyone who hasn’t downloaded it previously. And you still have to contend with all the other downsides of downloadable games including managing the free space on your device.

At this point I don’t trust any console manufacturer to pinky promise that downloads will always be available, so I will not buy anything but a proper physical copy.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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You can resell game key cards, at least? They seem better than digital copies to me. And first party games are still on cartridge for the most part.

People have convinced themselves that game key cards are terrible, when they're the exact same thing as the old style of cartridges, with the only difference that you don't have the 1.0 on it. People are convinced that game key cards will stop working at some point, when it's the reverse that will happen; your card will be fine, but won't work on a Switch 2, only a future console. Nintendo will close access to their…

> People have convinced themselves that game key cards are terrible, when they're the exact same thing as the old style of cartridges, with the only difference that you don't have the 1.0 on it.

I guess this statement is correct, but my point is that the most important thing to me is that I have the game on the cartridge.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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> they know consumers are trapped. Gaming is a luxury good. We can all just walk away.

Walking away from the closed platform you invested hundreds/thousands of dollars into over the years is a luxury (especially if you were mislead into buying a PS5 with a disc drive thinking it'd be supported at least until the end of the product's lifespan) Monopolies, anti-competitive behavior, and anti-consumer behavior in general are all bad bad bad. You have to be a very interesting individual to disagree with th…

I’m just saying, you can stop buying new games. If enough people do it, Sony will fold.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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> they know consumers are trapped. Gaming is a luxury good. We can all just walk away.

The writing has been on the wall for a decade now for gaming being a purely rental-driven, consumer-antagonistic segment of the software market. People have been talking about "walking away" for at least that long. The soles of those walking shoes are as thick and un-worn as they've ever been.

If you decide to buy into Sony’s future, make sure you do it with your eyes wide open.

Unlike Valve who has never taken away what people have bought without a refund (to my knowledge), Sony doesn’t deserve that benefit of the doubt:

https://www.techradar.com/streaming/entertainment/this-shoul...

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Most art is garbage, doesn't mean it's okay to make it inaccessible by fiat.

Let’s take all these games as great artworks - why don’t their creators have the right to destroy them? All my own art is derivative schlock, so maybe I’m biased, but I don’t see how the viewer/consumer whoever has any say in the matter. The show is over when it’s over. Should be compel musicians to record every live performance and make those available to people who couldn’t make it to the show too? What if someone…

> Let’s take all these games as great artworks - why don’t their creators have the right to destroy them?

Because they sold them. They put it out in the world. If they just made it and then immediately destroyed it, wonderful! But they didn't.

And, also, their creators are not a monolith. They were worked on by hundreds of hands. The production company shouldn't get to unilaterally make that decision.

> Should be compel musicians to record every live performance and make those available to people who couldn’t make it to the show too?

This is this and that is that.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

#629

One of the selling points of consoles is the secondhand market, and the physical games. If digital only, then consoles have fewer differentiators to PCs, and PCs let you play online without a subscription. It's not a given, but it's a plausible future that steam boxes outsell playstations, and that Sony loses its lucrative cut of game sales because people moved to PC since there was no differentiator for consoles oth…

They must think platform-exclusives titles are the differentiator.
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