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Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by causal »

janalsncm wrote: post #261

I never strongly considered open weight models before getting throttled all the time from Claude. I bought a 1 year pro subscription but my bet is I won’t renew it. The Claude “usage” UX is very bad. At the most basic level, there is no way to know what you’re actually paying for if you buy a “pro” plan or a “max” plan. Dario will take your $200 but he will give you a secret number of tokens in return. I have no way…

Yeah I recently downgraded my subscription. The paternalism is out of control. Secret weights, secret guardrails, secret stenography, secret dumbing-down of triggers, secret token allowances.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by jasonfarnon »

jaggederest wrote: post #246
himata4113 wrote: post #194

I think this is as good as time as any to bring up that fable/mythos weights are one mistake (malicious or not) away from being leaked to adverseries or available in a random torrent. Imagine this, fable weights are likely distributed to hundreds of datacenters with likely thousands of people directly or indirectly having partial or full access. I just don't quite buy that a 'world ending' fable/mythos model would be…

It's probably a huge file though, I would guess it's at least a multi terabyte file.

The spotify leak on the front page a while back mentioned a 300TB torrent

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by jasonfarnon »

ofjcihen wrote: post #191
crancher wrote: post #150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same problem, in-progress book about language and thermodynamics gets flagged. Their classifier is just a regex I guess?

Off and on topic I guess but: Language and Thermodynamics? Like, the same book? That sounds interesting.

entropy/information theory may be the bridge?

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by felipeerias »

kelvinjps10 wrote: post #201
sroussey wrote: post #50

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There will be an Opus 5 though.

I still don't understand the difference between the fable models and opus I mean why fable wasn't opus 5 and instead is a new name?

As far as we know, Fable is a new model and significantly larger than Opus.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by Chyzwar »

stingraycharles wrote: post #203
Avicebron wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really disappointed with Anthropic that they wont even mention if they will release a fable-like model with the subscription plans. If Opus 4.8 is the best model they will release on the subscriptions I may be too tall for the ride...which is sad, they have been my favorite of the labs until this. @AnyoneAtAnthropic, all we want are assurance we will still get SOTA models that are continuously improving, not regr…

> I'm really disappointed with Anthropic that they wont even mention if they will release a fable-like model with the subscription plans. I believe this is just their strategy to migrate away from these “almost all you can eat” subscription plans. Rather than reducing / removing Opus or Sonnet from the plans, they’ll just keep the new model Fable out (which may as well have been called Opus 5), and slowly everyone st…

Until 7th,Fable is twice expensive in subscription tokens than Opus. They are testing if they can introduce 400 dollars Fable subscription.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by victor9000 »

If this model is not willing to fix security issues in your application, does it mean that it's implicitly embedding vulnerabilities as well? How can it be trusted to write secure code?

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by palata »

mrcwinn wrote: post #270
matheusmoreira wrote: post #260

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Mythos somehow leaking and becoming usable by all humanity in a self-hosted manner would probably be the optimal long term outcome.

We can’t buy affordable memory for Fortnite but everyone is running Mythos locally? Is this the year of Linux on the desktop too?

I think they meant more "every country can host it", as opposed to "every human hosts it at home".

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by jaggederest »

jasonfarnon wrote: post #272
jaggederest wrote: post #246

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's probably a huge file though, I would guess it's at least a multi terabyte file.

The spotify leak on the front page a while back mentioned a 300TB torrent

I suspect that might have been more than one file - I wonder how many files make up the shipping bundle for Fable 5?

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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Post by pkoird »

ofjcihen wrote: post #182
madamelic wrote: post #172

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Today I told Sonnet (!) to use a browser MCP to enter a username and password for the project it is working on, it told me that it can't do that because it violates its security protocol. This worked fine before. I love Claude, I have stuck with it even through people saying Codex is better but this is definitely getting to be the last straw. It's completely absurd I am paying them $200+ per month along with pushing…

It’s incredibly ridiculous that it won’t help with that for me either sometimes but yet I’m also sitting on 3 surefire ways of jailbreaking Opus 4.8 that I use for cybersecurity assessments and pentesting

I'm not saying you are on a list now, I'm just saying if you were now to be on a list, I wouldn't be surprised.
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