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It cannot be used for ANY coding tasks, lol. https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/2072163884430229756

It can. They meant "some coding tasks". Not "all coding tasks"

No, they said some routine tasks "like coding". That logically implies coding is one of the tasks they block.

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They didn't become the good guy, Anthropic became the bad guy instead. The good guys are the chinese firms releasing open weight models.

There's no good guys, just entities you might be able to get marginal value from, who in turn want to get marginal value from you

No. The "good guys" are the ones who provide permanent value: open weight models, hardware we can afford, purchase and own. The good guys offer sovereignty.

The "you'll buy intelligence from us on a meter" rent seekers are technofeudalists. Just a bunch of "you'll own nothing and you'll be happy" oligarchs who must be resisted at all costs. Anthropic had a reputation for ethics at first but it quickly became clear it was just like OpenAI but with a patronizing attitude.

The fact China is releasing open weight models will never not be amusing. I expected better from the USA.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can. They meant "some coding tasks". Not "all coding tasks"

No, they said some routine tasks "like coding". That logically implies coding is one of the tasks they block.

Anthropic employees clarified: https://x.com/trq212/status/2072185565076988326?s=20

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they said some routine tasks "like coding". That logically implies coding is one of the tasks they block.

Anthropic employees clarified: https://x.com/trq212/status/2072185565076988326?s=20

Oh, OK then. Good to hear! Thanks for the link!

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Amusing to see OpenAI being the "good guy" in the end

They didn't become the good guy, Anthropic became the bad guy instead. The good guys are the chinese firms releasing open weight models.

> The good guys are the chinese firms

Eh... I'd say DeepSeek and maybe one more of the small labs. Chinese Big Tech is even worse than US Big Tech.

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I think this is as good as time as any to bring up that fable/mythos weights are one mistake (malicious or not) away from being leaked to adverseries or available in a random torrent. Imagine this, fable weights are likely distributed to hundreds of datacenters with likely thousands of people directly or indirectly having partial or full access. I just don't quite buy that a 'world ending' fable/mythos model would be…

It's probably a huge file though, I would guess it's at least a multi terabyte file.

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I think this is as good as time as any to bring up that fable/mythos weights are one mistake (malicious or not) away from being leaked to adverseries or available in a random torrent. Imagine this, fable weights are likely distributed to hundreds of datacenters with likely thousands of people directly or indirectly having partial or full access. I just don't quite buy that a 'world ending' fable/mythos model would be…

most of it is overstated because of marketing. in fact the ban looked like an inside job by the current administration to play with the stock value. if the ban did anything it was to make every n00b agree that Anthropic was so far ahead of its times it needed to be banned.

Stock value?

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I gave it a book on human consciousness I was writing and it flagged it. This model is hilariously bad. Anthropic has defanged this model to the point of malice. No way am I paying to use something that is basically useless.

Today I told Sonnet (!) to use a browser MCP to enter a username and password for the project it is working on, it told me that it can't do that because it violates its security protocol. This worked fine before. I love Claude, I have stuck with it even through people saying Codex is better but this is definitely getting to be the last straw. It's completely absurd I am paying them $200+ per month along with pushing…

codex 5.5 is like that. it refuses

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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I think this is as good as time as any to bring up that fable/mythos weights are one mistake (malicious or not) away from being leaked to adverseries or available in a random torrent. Imagine this, fable weights are likely distributed to hundreds of datacenters with likely thousands of people directly or indirectly having partial or full access. I just don't quite buy that a 'world ending' fable/mythos model would be…

most of it is overstated because of marketing. in fact the ban looked like an inside job by the current administration to play with the stock value. if the ban did anything it was to make every n00b agree that Anthropic was so far ahead of its times it needed to be banned.

I feel like I'm loosing my mind with the way people are falling for the marketing with every iteration. Is it better, sure but it's still just a LLM.
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