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Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by saghm »

Pxtl wrote: post #470
NegativeLatency wrote: post #456

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Plenty of PC games, the linux distros that run steam are great too!

Just because valve is a benevolent dictator doesn't mean they don't already have the same dictatorship powers that Sony is currently chiseling out for themselves. I wish NFTs had taken off as a system for managing decentralized transferrable digital purchases instead of being another investment scam.

Proton is open source though (and a lot of the improvements are also upstreamed to Wine, which isn't directly under Valve's control), and you can use it to run third-party games if you want (even ones that are also sold on Steam's storefront). If Valve stopped being benevolent, it would be annoying, but they wouldn't be able to undo most of the improvements we already have.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by saghm »

tremon wrote: post #547
RIMR wrote: post #510

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At least with a PC you have control over the system. You're even freer with Valve because now have the ease of using Linux. My entire Steam library is backed up to LTO tapes. I can get most everything running without needing Steam. I will continue to support this business model, because I retain the power to own the system and the data.

> I can get most everything running without needing Steam. I thought most Steam games relied on remote activation/verification? Can you install and run them on a non-networked machine? If not, your LTO tapes are close to worthless because Valve (or its buyer) can still pull the same trick that Sony did here, with the same effect.

I'm not positive whether this is what they're referring to, but you can add external games to your Steam library. This is how the Steam Deck is able to run arbitrary games without needing to be in desktop mode, and the most straightforward way to run Windows games via Proton on Linux even if you obtained them elsewhere.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by silisili »

SoftTalker wrote: post #364
phire wrote: post #23

With this news, I have to wonder how much longer bluray will live. Will we continue seeing new bluray releases of movies and TV shows for decades, or are their days numbered? The loss of console gaming presumably removes a guaranteed revenue source that was keeping Bluray pressing plants alive. Sales of DVDs and Bluray have been declining for years [1] [3] . Some people have been excited pushing the news that UHD blu…

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I thought after the DVD era surely we'd get something more akin to SD cards or flash drives instead of more discs, really disappointed we ended up with Blu Ray.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by [deleted] »

quacker wrote: post #509
mywittyname wrote: post #337

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Counter-argument: I have a Steam account associated with a day 1 purchase of Half Life 2 (so, 25 years or so). Every game I've ever purchased is still available for me to download, while I lost probably 50% or more of my physical games collection. If I'm renting those games, it sure seems like a good deal. I do appreciate that console online market places have not historically been as well managed as Steam. But also,…

Right. License pulls happen extremely rarely for digital video games[1] And delisting a game from a store isn't a license pull. Delisting prevents new purchases of the game, but owners of a game prior to delisting can still download and play[2] For example, even though Sony is closing the PS3 store to new purchases after 20 years, existing owners of digital games can still download their digital copies. So my entire…

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Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by chrisco255 »

bogwog wrote: post #542
dogwalker5000 wrote: post #452

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> they know consumers are trapped. Gaming is a luxury good. We can all just walk away.

Walking away from the closed platform you invested hundreds/thousands of dollars into over the years is a luxury (especially if you were mislead into buying a PS5 with a disc drive thinking it'd be supported at least until the end of the product's lifespan) Monopolies, anti-competitive behavior, and anti-consumer behavior in general are all bad bad bad. You have to be a very interesting individual to disagree with th…

Sony doesnt have a monopoly on gaming. There is PC, mobile, Steam, Nintendo, Apple desktop, etc. There are also retro games consoles like Mod64. You don't invest in a game console it is an entertainment expense. You can sell your used PS5 if you disagree with the direction.

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Post by throw2ih020 »

kjkjadksj wrote: post #552
mywittyname wrote: post #337

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Counter-argument: I have a Steam account associated with a day 1 purchase of Half Life 2 (so, 25 years or so). Every game I've ever purchased is still available for me to download, while I lost probably 50% or more of my physical games collection. If I'm renting those games, it sure seems like a good deal. I do appreciate that console online market places have not historically been as well managed as Steam. But also,…

Your library on steam is tied to you. When you die, it is gone. Your children or family using it is against terms of use.

This is partially false, Steam has an official system for children and families to share purchased games: https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/054C-3167-DD7F-49...

In practice, Steam is likely not going to know or care if the owner of a Steam account has died and someone else is using the account credentials.

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Post by MoonWalk »

rdschouw wrote: post #496
fcsp wrote: post #435

Great buildup on Sony's side to gain trust in this move in the gaming community ahead of this announcement when just this week they again pulled hundreds of "purchased" movies from customer's libraries without refund, reminding everyone that digital content is rented, not owned. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/06/sony-erases-digital-...

Also let us not forget the rootkit malware Sony BMG distributed on their audio CDs. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sony_BMG_copy_protection_rootk...

If you hadn't brought that up, I would have.

Sony should not be let off the hook for its offensive (essentially criminal) behavior.

I won't even review Sony's decades-long efforts to undermine industry standards...

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by PaulHoule »

Marcan wrote: post #447
fcsp wrote: post #435

Great buildup on Sony's side to gain trust in this move in the gaming community ahead of this announcement when just this week they again pulled hundreds of "purchased" movies from customer's libraries without refund, reminding everyone that digital content is rented, not owned. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2026/06/sony-erases-digital-...

And don't forget closing the PS3 and Vita Playstation stores, which they announced at the same time: https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/an-update-on-playsta... This is a weird marketing strategy. They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped.

I made a decision to get away from other consoles and only invest in Steam a while ago. In the 2010s I was a big Vita player but Sony backed away from investing in the Vita and I saw that the kind of Japanese games I liked were coming out on Steam so I sold my Vita.

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Post by PaulHoule »

lenerdenator wrote: post #493
dogwalker5000 wrote: post #452

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> they know consumers are trapped. Gaming is a luxury good. We can all just walk away.

The writing has been on the wall for a decade now for gaming being a purely rental-driven, consumer-antagonistic segment of the software market. People have been talking about "walking away" for at least that long. The soles of those walking shoes are as thick and un-worn as they've ever been.

I play Arknights on my iPad but that's the one live service game I have anything to do with.

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Post by PaulHoule »

neilv wrote: post #525
Marcan wrote: post #447

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And don't forget closing the PS3 and Vita Playstation stores, which they announced at the same time: https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/an-update-on-playsta... This is a weird marketing strategy. They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped.

> This is a weird marketing strategy. They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped. I've been on PlayStation family since PS2, and used to think I was married to it, with my game library and my player character stuff/gear/creations in various games. But the platform no longer lets me play many of those games, anyway, whether due to console gen or server shutdowns. And nobody cares ab…

"Linux" gaming on Steam deck or Steam in general is a lean-back experience that's got almost nothing in common with the sweaty PC game experience of the past with the big chunky joysticks that were always falling apart and had to be recalibrated all the time and the too-sharp graphics and all.

I picked up some ACER handheld at Best Buy and it was a complete joke, the first thing I saw looked like a Windows PC with comically small fonts. My Steam Deck looks more like a Switch or PS Vita.

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