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Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by Anamon »

mDyJzDPmBdG wrote: post #14
rvz wrote: post #9

Unsurprising. [0] This is even before 2030 and you will own nothing and be happy. Get ready for your games to be delisted [1] as you never owned them in the first place (unless you have the disc) [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33362792 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32049626

> unless you have the disc Is that really enough? AFAIK many PC games with SecuROM won't ever work without crack, as that entire DRM is incompatible with modern OSes.

SecuROM can be re-enabled on Windows 10/11 with some reasonably simple steps. But I think that's comparing apples to oranges. That SecuROM game will continue to work fine on a system it was designed for. Playing a game from the Windows 98 era on a Windows 11 system is entering the territory of backwards compatibility. Same as a PSX game will keep running on any PSX, but there are no guarantees on a PS2.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by bogwog »

dogwalker5000 wrote: post #452
Marcan wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And don't forget closing the PS3 and Vita Playstation stores, which they announced at the same time: https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/an-update-on-playsta... This is a weird marketing strategy. They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped.

> they know consumers are trapped. Gaming is a luxury good. We can all just walk away.

Walking away from the closed platform you invested hundreds/thousands of dollars into over the years is a luxury (especially if you were mislead into buying a PS5 with a disc drive thinking it'd be supported at least until the end of the product's lifespan)

Monopolies, anti-competitive behavior, and anti-consumer behavior in general are all bad bad bad. You have to be a very interesting individual to disagree with that.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by k4rnaj1k »

mywittyname wrote: post #477
sikim wrote: post #465

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> encryption / trusted computing is so good that future systems will never be cracked. I highly doubt this. The platforms that didn't have any jailbreaking scenes weren't because the devices were so secure; it was because there was not enough demand for it. If given enough time, there will always be hacks and bypasses just like Denuvo or hypervisor bypass like the recent hack.

You can doubt this. But the fact is, the Xbox One was secure for it's entire operational life without a crack. And the Series X/S has held up as well. It's completely possible that future consoles are secure enough that the components fail long before the security does.

iirc microsoft also allowed installing homebrew without cracking the console, which definitely was a conttibuting factor. Why hack the console if you can just install your own software already.

And it isn't like any xbox console exclusives come to mind, all their stuff comes out on pc too.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by no_multitudes »

logicchains wrote: post #443
mywittyname wrote: post #328

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For now, it's still possible to crack consoles and extract the games from disk. However, we are probably approaching an era where encryption / trusted computing is so good that future systems will never be cracked. However, the flip side is that so many games are built using common game engines, and receive multi-platform releases. So there's a broader surface area for potential preservation. Maybe the PS6 version is…

>However, we are probably approaching an era where encryption / trusted computing is so good that future systems will never be cracked. If AI lives up to its promise then in 5-10 years it should be possible (and affordable) to just point an AI at the screen and let it clone all the graphics, then have it implement the engine.

If just one of any number of millenarian cults live up to their promise then in 5-10 years we can play any game we want with Jesus up in heaven.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by Anamon »

Rodmine wrote: post #168
fluoridation wrote: post #152

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Do you mean "grow up", or do you mean "stop enjoying things you used to enjoy"?

If you enjoyed something as a much younger person, and enjoy it as a much older person, it is very unlikely that it is the thing itself that you are enjoying. To test it, you can try giving that thing to someone your age and see if they enjoy it (they will most likely think it's a nuisance). To experience it yourself, you can try what kids are into these days or even better try something that people used to like long…

That is just blatantly wrong. I'm obsessed with staying on top of new music, and go to the cinema fairly often, but many of my favourite movies and music are way older than me. And books? Forget about it. I don't know if, in the grand scheme of things, many truly great novels were even written after I was born.

The idea that no generation can truly enjoy art created by previous generations is, frankly, laughable. And I don't see any reason why that would be different for games.

Sure, I love replaying some of the games I loved when I grew up. But I also love discovering classic games that I had never even heard of before. Likewise, there are many games I enjoyed in my youth that I just can't get into anymore. Sure, nostalgia is a factor, but it's just one amongst many.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by tremon »

RIMR wrote: post #510
Pxtl wrote: post #470

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Just because valve is a benevolent dictator doesn't mean they don't already have the same dictatorship powers that Sony is currently chiseling out for themselves. I wish NFTs had taken off as a system for managing decentralized transferrable digital purchases instead of being another investment scam.

At least with a PC you have control over the system. You're even freer with Valve because now have the ease of using Linux. My entire Steam library is backed up to LTO tapes. I can get most everything running without needing Steam. I will continue to support this business model, because I retain the power to own the system and the data.

> I can get most everything running without needing Steam.

I thought most Steam games relied on remote activation/verification? Can you install and run them on a non-networked machine? If not, your LTO tapes are close to worthless because Valve (or its buyer) can still pull the same trick that Sony did here, with the same effect.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by moniosi »

TheAmazingRace wrote: post #222
everdrive wrote: post #198

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I think blu-ray will live for quite a while, but will be a bit like vinyl; there will be a consistent, niche market.

Hilariously, DVD production could potentially outlive Blu-Ray discs, since DVDs are still popular enough 30 years later, and surpass the sales of Blu-Ray movies.

unfortunately mpeg2 is still standard for them so i guess people have to stick to 480i on double layer i guess, unless stars align and someone decide to make av1/opus standard for them lol

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by [deleted] »

dogwalker5000 wrote: post #452
Marcan wrote: post #447

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And don't forget closing the PS3 and Vita Playstation stores, which they announced at the same time: https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/an-update-on-playsta... This is a weird marketing strategy. They must feel free to do as they please since they know consumers are trapped.

> they know consumers are trapped. Gaming is a luxury good. We can all just walk away.

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Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by kjkjadksj »

catlikesshrimp wrote: post #526
axus wrote: post #374

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It'd be responsible of them to say that they can only provide 1 million downloads on the first day, or whatever the limits of their contract with the CDN says. Evidence that it's fake!

Why can't an encrypted copy be distributed a week before launch? You would call LAUNCH DAY when you release the 2MB decryption key.

They usually do allow for pre downloading
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