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Monetization Gateway: Charge for any resource behind Cloudflare via x402

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Post by arjie »

This is the dream of microtransactions and agents-paying-for-access that so many people have always wanted. It was never going to be implemented on existing payment rails so it would have to be something like this. I can't wait to see it in play somewhere because I am increasingly annoyed that I have to own API keys on various platforms etc. etc.

I just want my agent to make decisions and spend a limited amount of money (this is on me to cover) just like a human agent can.

If we get the other promise of "read this news but pay a few cents for it" that would be incredible too. Very excited for this new thing.

Re: Monetization Gateway: Charge for any resource behind Cloudflare via x402

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Post by meowkit »

BadBadJellyBean wrote: post #87
tony_cannistra wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Vending machines can't be used by thousands of people from differing tax jurisdictions at once

Airports could potentially be such a place but I admit that this is a bit contrived.

It’s not contrived and starts to touch at the root of the issue: taxes on transactions.

I’m not against taxes to be very clear. Tax something else.

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Post by dang »

the_gipsy wrote: post #23

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Can you please stop fulminating and posting flamebait and/or unsubstantive comments to HN threads? All of that is against the guidelines and you have unfortunately been doing them repeatedly.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

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Post by carlosjobim »

babelfish wrote: post #85
carlosjobim wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Of course nobody wants to pay for anything, and you like me would like to be given everything for free without having to give anything in exchange. But why would somebody want to give it for free?

I can read the news for free right now!

You can read some ad-supported news for free right now. But there's probably a large enough group of customers who would prefer paying a subscription instead, just like with music.

Re: Monetization Gateway: Charge for any resource behind Cloudflare via x402

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Post by dzonga »

what Cloudflare & others pushing similar mechanisms - have forgotten one crucial detail ?

Where is the "human" in all of this ?

an agent doesn't consume content. & that's why content & advertising have worked hand in hand over centuries. the personalized ad-tech pushed by the massive tech firms hasn't worked for publishers.

which is why retail media, CTV etc are picking up. & why Amazon Ads is racking it - within a few years Amazon ads might actually get more revenue than either Google | Meta.

so once again - where is the human & the human element, even though x402 is fantastic.

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Post by alexsmirnov »

mixedbit wrote: post #88
aianus wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Who do you invoice if, for example, you own a vending machine that sells chips and sodas for cash or contactless? Why couldn’t this be treated the same?

Normal vending machine transactions are B2C transactions, so the buyer cannot be a company - cannot pay with company money and cannot deduce the payment as the company cost. I guess, the buyer can take a receipt from a vending machine and ask the vending machine owner to provide a B2B invoice based on the receipt, to make this a proper B2B payment. Can you treat your remote service access as B2C only? Perhaps yes, bu…

If I pay for vending machine by corporate card on a business trip, it looks more like B2B

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Post by wpapper »

arjie wrote: post #121

This is the dream of microtransactions and agents-paying-for-access that so many people have always wanted. It was never going to be implemented on existing payment rails so it would have to be something like this. I can't wait to see it in play somewhere because I am increasingly annoyed that I have to own API keys on various platforms etc. etc. I just want my agent to make decisions and spend a limited amount of mo…

Thank you for the kind words! I’m a PM on the team that is building this. I’ve believed in microtransactions for over a decade and hope that we can finally bring them to life.

Proper spend delegation and permissions is a big focus of ours - it’s great to let your agent have discretion, as long as the damage from going off course is limited. Definitely want people to feel comfortable experimenting with emerging tech

Feel free to email me at (my username)@(my company) if you have any feature requests or things you’d like to see

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