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Re: Fable 5 is Back

#23

I really hope they reconsider adding Fable access back to the subscription plans, at least the 20x plan. I know it was the original intention when the 14 day (I think) time frame was originally announced, and they were working to keep it on subscription plans. But no word if thats even a thing anymore?

Only for the next week. > Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits.

Right, but originally they announced a period of time it was included in plans, and then they were "working hard" to extend the period and eventually make it a permanent fixture of the plans.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

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twitter? are u sure it's not ur corporate?

Update: It is my company's middleware box. I'm not sure why I'm not seeing this flagged on other sites. Update2: They're blocking all (not HN!) social media now because someone got catfished on whatsapp or something.

Maybe they are blocking just Claude?

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#26
Maybe, for some projects, instead of generating code with it, it would be useful to generate a plan and the loop(tests/formal verification),because those take much less tokens than a full project, and than use the loop using the older models ?

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#27
I am only a casual Clause (Pro) user and I am confused by the messaging, maybe I'm missing something obvious.

> Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5.

Does this mean that being able to use Fable on my subscription is a time-limited promotion? I have a subscription, why can't I just... use the model? Is it the case that going forward a subscription will only give you access to older models and newer ones will require additional payment?

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#28
I applaud the engineers that work at Anthropic, who have created both amazing products and uniquely intelligent models -- but I really shake my head at some of their business decisions and public comms which have done a lot to damage their trustworthiness in the business and developer community.

In just the past month: they decided to silently downgrade (instead of simply refusing) responses related to machine learning and other 'competitive' topics [1]. Then, they were caught fingerprinting certain request environments in a hidden way [2]. And now, once Fable is re-released after much frustration among its customers, they are providing it for a shorter period than promised (mostly over a major holiday period), with more stringent safety classifiers and a 50% haircut to usage limits.

It's hard to not view the organization as bizarrely adversarial to its customers. I was incredibly supportive of Anthropic during the supply chain debacle, as I viewed it as the capricious actions of a corrupt admin. But now I am wondering if it was just a response to the ineptness of their business leaders.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48467896 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48734373

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Only for the next week. > Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits.

Right, but originally they announced a period of time it was included in plans, and then they were "working hard" to extend the period and eventually make it a permanent fixture of the plans.

I'd imagine that depends on how it winds up being used.

Re: Fable 5 is Back

#30

I am only a casual Clause (Pro) user and I am confused by the messaging, maybe I'm missing something obvious. > Until July 7, you can use up to 50% of your plan's weekly usage limit on Fable 5. Does this mean that being able to use Fable on my subscription is a time-limited promotion? I have a subscription, why can't I just... use the model? Is it the case that going forward a subscription will only give you access t…

Fable is more expensive to run, and they haven't figured out the GTM strategy just yet. I imagine they'll see how much people actually use to see if it's still worth subsidizing on the Max/Pro plans, or if they make an extra tier above.
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