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One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

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Re: One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

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post #11

Disagree. The reason that Gmail for iOS and Gmail in general suck is the total lack of support for cryptography within the application (S/MIME, PGP, or other solutions). As a friend of mine said, "Gmail -- a private conversation between you, me, and 25,000 SREs."

Better to say "between you, me, and the internet".

Remember that email is typically transmitted between servers in the clear, so it's trivially easy for your messages to be observed by arbitrary third parties.

Re: One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

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Basically all of iOS has the tiny-text problem (on iPhone, at least) - both Safari and Chrome have zoom that doesn't reflow text, so you either have to read something tiny or frantically scroll left and right to read each line. It gives me a headache, and this is the first thing that's made me think about switching back to Android.

Re: One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

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Google, I have the solution. Step 1: Checkout the Sparrow source code Step 2: Find and Replace All on the word "Sparrow" and change it to "Gmail" Step 3: Add push notifications. Compile and send to the app store.

I dunno about that - I really wanted to like Sparrow for iOS (aside from a couple bugs dealing with insane volumes of email, I love it on the desktop) but it never felt quite right to me.

I've actually just now reinstalled it to check what bothered me so much, and it's the same issue I have with the new Gmail app: swipe-to-archive simply isn't there. Frequency of me archiving messages: extremely high. Frequency of changing between different folders: nearly zero. Yet the left-to-right swipe which gives you the "delete" button in Mail brings that weird Facebook-esque hierarchical navbar that's become so prevalent in the last couple years.

Swiping the other direction exposes five options, two of which (I assume "archive" and "delete") have rather ambiguous icons. Mental energy - do not like (see also: new Gmail web UI).

When viewing an individual message, it's two taps to do all of the stuff that takes one in Mail. The designers traded always-visible icons for extra message real estate; clearly a matter of personal preference, but the wrong one for me.

Just goes to show how oddly personal the email experience can be, especially when you consider everyone's various workflows.

Re: One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

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post #11

Disagree. The reason that Gmail for iOS and Gmail in general suck is the total lack of support for cryptography within the application (S/MIME, PGP, or other solutions). As a friend of mine said, "Gmail -- a private conversation between you, me, and 25,000 SREs."

Funny, but not necessarily true. Poking around in someone's personal data is a really, REALLY good way to get fired immediately.

getting caught poking around in someone's personal data is a great way to get fired ;)

Re: One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

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It mentions @media queries working in the iOS Mail app, but as best as I've been able to decipher, they're still fairly broken (whereas Android's Mail app and K-9 aren't).

Specifically, it always reports that the mail is in landscape mode (even in the default portrait) and doesn't set max-width to a larger value when in landscape mode, making it (again, as far as I've been able to figure out) impossible to create different HTML mail layouts for landscape and portrait modes.

Re: One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

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post #22
post #2

They should make it more like the Android version, that one is awesome.

i don't know about that. i often get html-emails from companies which don't fit the screen. sometimes i can align it by adjusting to the left... shouldn't have to.

Agreed on that. HTML e-mails are a pain to view!

Re: One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

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post #23

Basically all of iOS has the tiny-text problem (on iPhone, at least) - both Safari and Chrome have zoom that doesn't reflow text, so you either have to read something tiny or frantically scroll left and right to read each line. It gives me a headache, and this is the first thing that's made me think about switching back to Android.

>both Safari and Chrome have zoom that doesn't reflow text

What?! (That doesn't seem right...?)

Re: One reason Gmail for iOS still sucks

#30
post #24

Google, I have the solution. Step 1: Checkout the Sparrow source code Step 2: Find and Replace All on the word "Sparrow" and change it to "Gmail" Step 3: Add push notifications. Compile and send to the app store.

I dunno about that - I really wanted to like Sparrow for iOS (aside from a couple bugs dealing with insane volumes of email, I love it on the desktop) but it never felt quite right to me. I've actually just now reinstalled it to check what bothered me so much, and it's the same issue I have with the new Gmail app: swipe-to-archive simply isn't there. Frequency of me archiving messages: extremely high. Frequency of ch…

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