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Are readers generating fiction with AI models?

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Re: Are readers generating fiction with AI models?

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Post by fluoridation »

lubujackson wrote: post #19

So fans have fan fiction because they love certain worlds and characters and want more of it, or to riff on the base to take stories in new directions. We have things like TV tropes so it is no small stretch to, say, generate sitcom-type stories from Harry Potter or GoT that can continue forever. But where does all of this lead? Music has sinilar issues, but I think of this like the compression/loudness issue in musi…

I don't get your point. Do people not get bored and move on to something else one way or the other? What exactly is different?

Re: Are readers generating fiction with AI models?

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Post by rhdunn »

mirabilis wrote: post #18
rhdunn wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell that to the LLM RP crowd.

I think you lose that draw of interactivity when you’re essentially reading someone else’s RP, though.

You're not reading someone else's RP, though. Not with the applications that support this.

There are things like the character(s) you interact with, the initial setting, and some background information predefined, but the responses/evolution of the RP vary depending on things like the model used and the user's interactions.

It's somewhat like taking a D&D setting/scenario. Each group plays it differently.

Re: Are readers generating fiction with AI models?

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Post by bawolff »

MarkusQ wrote: post #10

> Are readers generating fiction with AI models? Why not? Journalists, lawyers and pundits of various stripes are already doing it. Why shouldn't readers?

Because fiction is a different genere and historically at least AI was much worse at it.

The big differences:

- fiction tends to be longer, AI struggles with making a satisfying coherent plot structure after a certain length.

- fiction tends to be subtler. You want characters to have nuance, shades of grey, symbolism, etc. Not everything should be shouted in your face. This is the opposite of writing persusaive literature where you are trying to convince someone of something.

Re: Are readers generating fiction with AI models?

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Post by lelanthran »

plastic-enjoyer wrote: post #11
sriramgopalan wrote: post #2

This is interesting. We have seen the internet change many fields and democratize them. For instance, only a few media outlets produced news stories and analysis, the rest of us consumed it. Blogging changed that. Only a few studios produced shows. With Youtube etc., many of the consumers could become producers themselves. If I read this correctly, books and fiction are headed in the same direction.

> If I read this correctly, books and fiction are headed in the same direction. I don't really see how AI 'democratizes' fiction and book writing?

> I don't really see how AI 'democratizes' fiction and book writing?

When people say "AI will democratise $FOO" they don't mean it the way it is usually understood: people with skill and motivation can now produce $FOO.

What they mean is that people with no skill and no motivation can now pretend that they produced $FOO.

Remember the "I'm the ideas guy" people who would ask you to build a complete system and offer 1% equity because "the ideas are the hard part"? Well, the future is going to be filled with "ideas guys", making it even harder to find signal in the noise.

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