Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
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Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#2How can it be legal to charge a higher fee for the Fable model, if most of the usage will default to a cheaper model behind the scenes?
It is one thing if I, as the user, choose to down-level but Claude shouldn't do this on its own.
Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#3How can it be legal to charge a higher fee for the Fable model, if most of the usage will default to a cheaper model behind the scenes? It is one thing if I, as the user, choose to down-level but Claude shouldn't do this on its own.
They are transparent. Don’t use it if you don’t want to. These things shouldn’t be illegal.
Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#4How can it be legal to charge a higher fee for the Fable model, if most of the usage will default to a cheaper model behind the scenes? It is one thing if I, as the user, choose to down-level but Claude shouldn't do this on its own.
Originally at least the switch wasn't silent and whether to halt or auto switch was a setting in Claude Code.
Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#5How can it be legal to charge a higher fee for the Fable model, if most of the usage will default to a cheaper model behind the scenes? It is one thing if I, as the user, choose to down-level but Claude shouldn't do this on its own.
because it's all indistinguishable from magic when it's a cloud SaaS.
Not like you can tell the difference if you dont own any of the implementation.
Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#6I must admit I was drawn to Claude because of their (obviously successful with me) publicity stunt about "being too dangerous to make widely available", when Mythos came out.
It's a shame because I was really looking forward to use it specifically to find potential security holes in my own software.
That being said, Opus 4.7/4.8 have been quite useful already, especially for finding things in the harder to test, non-happy paths.
If I recall, Fable 5 is supposed to be basically Mythos which falls back to Opus 4.8 when dealing with cybersecurity. I wonder if that also includes "finding bugs that could lead to security exploits".
Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#7How can it be legal to charge a higher fee for the Fable model, if most of the usage will default to a cheaper model behind the scenes? It is one thing if I, as the user, choose to down-level but Claude shouldn't do this on its own.
They are transparent. Don’t use it if you don’t want to. These things shouldn’t be illegal.
I agree that it shouldn't be outright illegal, but I will definitely be making the personal choice not to engage with model providers which do this. There's no amount of impressive results that could make me want to secretly pay more for less.
Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#8How can it be legal to charge a higher fee for the Fable model, if most of the usage will default to a cheaper model behind the scenes? It is one thing if I, as the user, choose to down-level but Claude shouldn't do this on its own.
They are transparent. Don’t use it if you don’t want to. These things shouldn’t be illegal.
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Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#9How can it be legal to charge a higher fee for the Fable model, if most of the usage will default to a cheaper model behind the scenes? It is one thing if I, as the user, choose to down-level but Claude shouldn't do this on its own.
Judging from their site, I think it should be OK:
"You won't be charged Fable prices for rerouted requests. Learn more about how the fallback experience works."
https://www.anthropic.com/claude/fable Under "Safeguards"
Re: Fable 5 will default to Opus 4.8 for coding tasks
#10I must admit I was drawn to Claude because of their (obviously successful with me) publicity stunt about "being too dangerous to make widely available", when Mythos came out. It's a shame because I was really looking forward to use it specifically to find potential security holes in my own software. That being said, Opus 4.7/4.8 have been quite useful already, especially for finding things in the harder to test, non-…
Yeah, I was very excited for Fable to come back to use it for work after using Opus 4.8, but now I guess I'm just excited for Sol/Terra/Luna (unless they have the same restrictions)