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Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Post by Jigsy »

Telaneo wrote: post #166
bigfishrunning wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't like the deal, don't take it. It doesn't matter if you recognize copyright, it's the law. Some people don't recognize speed limits; that doesn't always end well for them.

> it's the law I can ignore that too, you know. Not all laws are reasonable. > Some people don't recognize speed limits; that doesn't always end well for them. Breaking the speed limit can be lethal. That's a pretty good reason to follow that rule even if you don't care who made it. I haven't found good reasons to keep copyright law (on the contrary, I constantly see it hinder progress in society), so I ignore it. If…

> I can ignore that too, you know. Not all laws are reasonable.

I can speak from personal experience on this one! Civil disobedience is a wonderful thing.

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Post by vachina »

dylan604 wrote: post #39
phire wrote: post #23

With this news, I have to wonder how much longer bluray will live. Will we continue seeing new bluray releases of movies and TV shows for decades, or are their days numbered? The loss of console gaming presumably removes a guaranteed revenue source that was keeping Bluray pressing plants alive. Sales of DVDs and Bluray have been declining for years [1] [3] . Some people have been excited pushing the news that UHD blu…

I can't imagine content owners wanting the physical media to continue any longer than they can get away with. The control they have from digital only must make them feel so powerful. At least as long as everyone continues to buy into their DRM systems. I've recently looked into purchasing a dedicated 4K Blu-ray player to start building a disc collection again. I'm assuming there's some pretty decent deals in the used…

> The control they have from digital only must make them feel so powerful.

I hope they continue to feel this way. WEBDL can come faster.

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Post by dtech »

bromuk wrote: post #288

How times change https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

Microsoft just tried a generation too early. They could have gotten away with it this gen, and assuming 2028 will be start of next gen it looks like next gen it will go over without a fight.

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Post by sipos »

lelandfe wrote: post #38

To illustrate why this is stupid, I will furnish two links to purchase Dark Souls 3 (PS4, 2016) Ebay, to buy: $11 + shipping[0] PS Store, to rent: $60[1] [0] https://www.ebay.com/itm/298370753624 [1] https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/dark-souls-iii/

This is what happens when you have a market controlled heavily by one player - they use that to their own advantage.

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Post by bhelkey »

Fire-Dragon-DoL wrote: post #188

That will put them in direct competition with Steam, though. Suddenly their cheaper console will result in way higher cost for the lifetime of the console. Killing the used market is a very bad idea. Remember what happened with xbox?

When buying a gaming console, I imagine folks think more about the upfront cost ($600 for PS5 vs $1,050 for steam machine) as opposed to the total cost of ownership.

The steam machine may be cheaper in the long run once you consider:

* Playing PlayStation games online costs $11/month.

* PlayStation games tend to be more expensive than steam games.

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Post by swiftcoder »

mikestew wrote: post #271
pcl wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that? Vinyl has some unique characteristics. But as far as I’m aware, blu-ray is just a storage format for bits, so other than the box art, what is compelling about a blu-ray pressing?

Ever compare a Blu-ray to the same content over streaming? It's not even close. Unlike vinyl records, Blu-ray is vastly superior in quality to alternatives. In case you're asking "why", it's because your "4K" stream is compressed to hell and back. Your home internet connection doesn't even have the bandwidth to stream the quality of a BR.

> Your home internet connection doesn't even have the bandwidth to stream the quality of a BR.

This has not been true for most people for a while now. Even the high end of 4K blue rays tops out around 100 Mbps, which is achievable on pretty much any broadband connection.

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Post by stego-tech »

My household has been tied to the gaming industry in some form for decades. We’ve owned at least one of every console and handheld during that time, and a myriad of games for each. Collectors Editions, physical copies, digital if there was no other way or it was on sale.

We all agreed that we’re done with this. Nintendo gets a pass for making physical carts, but we’re done with paying full price to rent content in general. That also means no PS6, no Xbox-Whateverthefuck, and avoiding Game Key Cards where possible on Switch 2 (or buying them used).

If it’s not on GOG or Itch.io free of DRM, or there’s no physical copy available for sale, then we’ll wait for a deep discount on Steam or use our family library instead.

Fuck this noise, we’re out.

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Post by mrandish »

Between DRM, DLC, mandatory connectivity and the end of physical media, the future will look back on this era as the 'dark age' of digital gaming history. Maintaining activation servers, cloud storage and digital delivery costs money. If it doesn't disappear when the title reaches EOL, it certainly does when the company is gone or shifts business models. And draconian copyright laws create legal jeopardy around orphaned games from long-dead companies while the DMCA makes it illegal to remove DRM.

We simply have no way to preserve games.

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Post by henriquecm8 »

dominictorresmo wrote: post #250
cbolton wrote: post #243

I wonder if piracy will eventually fill for physical releases of movies and games. It might be a fun project to make an online store game work on blue ray with nice packaging...

In Brazil we have some websites that do this with old console games. Like this one: https://oldgame.com.br/

This is really nice, some even come with a manual that looks like the original.

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Post by ThrowawayR2 »

Hamuko wrote: post #47
OuterVale wrote: post #4

Shutting down the stores on the PlayStation 3 and PS Vita, too. https://blog.playstation.com/2026/07/01/an-update-on-playsta... Discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48745476

This is why I will not be buying a PlayStation 6. I've had my Steam account for 20 years (21 come October) and I can still download every single thing I've ever bought there. Why should I invest in buying PS6 games when they're gonna be made obsolete by Sony?

As much as I like Steam and dislike Sony (quite a bit in both cases), I will point out that while you can still download every single thing you've bought on Steam, there's no guarantee that it will run on a modern PC. A handful of my past Steam purchases don't. Consoles still hold the advantage of being a tightly defined target platform and a game written targeting a console is compatible with it indefinitely.
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