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Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

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Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

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This actualy came up in yesterday's congressional MKULTRA hearing. Somebody at the hearing pointed out the absurdity of the CIA claiming that MKULTRA was a dead end when we have 20 years of social media scandals and lawsuits showing that social media corporations are intentionally creating products that can manipulate large groups of people on an individual level. Clearly the hypotheses the CIA was testing were not a…

MKULTRA was about using _drugs_ to alter state. It has literally zero other than pop culture memes and conspiracy theory in relation to what facebook is doing. The facts are basically: Facebook's own researchers and independent researchers presented real harms caused by Facebook's algorithms, and they fired them, ignored them and took the datasets away and continued doing as they want. You don't need to go to any con…

Honestly, I'm about 10% of the way towards "Meta's social media people wrote this comment and astroturfed it to the top so that the case against Meta looks crazy."

Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a place where self-regulation ever works?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Dues I think this is a fun historical example. Ships passing through Denmark needed to pay a tax of 1-2% of the value of their cargo. They self-assessed that value. The twist that makes it interesting was that the King could choose to purchase any cargo immediately at the reported value. If a ship underreported, they might save on tax, but they risked taking a hefty loss. I have no…

That's literally the opposite of self-regulation.

Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a place where self-regulation ever works?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Dues I think this is a fun historical example. Ships passing through Denmark needed to pay a tax of 1-2% of the value of their cargo. They self-assessed that value. The twist that makes it interesting was that the King could choose to purchase any cargo immediately at the reported value. If a ship underreported, they might save on tax, but they risked taking a hefty loss. I have no…

sounds like Bernie Sander's modern day "lets just buy 50% of AI companies"

Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

#14

This is an area where we really could use case law to protect kids from the Zuckerberg's of the world. It's important for the future. We're not going to "self-regulate" our way out of this.

Is there a place where self-regulation ever works?

The best I've seen is ESRB ratings on video games.

Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

#15
Seriously losing confidence in the American judicial system with rulings like this. Facebook is already blocking children below age 13 and now with social media bans in place in many states the cut off is now 16. So frankly rulings like this just seem like the government seeing dollar signs and asking for hand outs. And all because people apparently can't accept any personal responsibility.

Disclaimer: I do not have a FB account.

Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

#16

This is an area where we really could use case law to protect kids from the Zuckerberg's of the world. It's important for the future. We're not going to "self-regulate" our way out of this.

But when governments do regulate (UK, AUS etc all) - people cry foul.

Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

#17

This is an area where we really could use case law to protect kids from the Zuckerberg's of the world. It's important for the future. We're not going to "self-regulate" our way out of this.

Is there a place where self-regulation ever works?

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Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

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Seriously losing confidence in the American judicial system with rulings like this. Facebook is already blocking children below age 13 and now with social media bans in place in many states the cut off is now 16. So frankly rulings like this just seem like the government seeing dollar signs and asking for hand outs. And all because people apparently can't accept any personal responsibility. Disclaimer: I do not have…

This seems totally reasonable. It is designed to be addictive, and they definitely target folks under 18. The article specifically mentions teens.

Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a place where self-regulation ever works?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_Dues I think this is a fun historical example. Ships passing through Denmark needed to pay a tax of 1-2% of the value of their cargo. They self-assessed that value. The twist that makes it interesting was that the King could choose to purchase any cargo immediately at the reported value. If a ship underreported, they might save on tax, but they risked taking a hefty loss. I have no…

We're in the "exceptio probat regulam" zone with this example.

Re: Meta loses bid to dismiss US states' claims that FB, Instagram addict children

#20

This is an area where we really could use case law to protect kids from the Zuckerberg's of the world. It's important for the future. We're not going to "self-regulate" our way out of this.

But when governments do regulate (UK, AUS etc all) - people cry foul.

People cry foul about every other thing too. It's best to ignore them.
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