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Yeah, I was wondering about that as well. Some weird AI transcriber?
Maybe an accessibility feature for TTS or blind users?
For first time, a cell built from scratch grows and divides
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Re: For first time, a cell built from scratch grows and divides
#62"The cell is not alive by any definition..."
"But it’s the strongest demonstration yet that it is possible to generate life from nonlife."
Contradicting themself in the same paragraph.
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#63> “It’s a big step forward to this holy grail of making a living thing out of dead components,” said Sijbren Otto, a systems chemist at the Stratingh Institute for Chemistry in the Netherlands who was not involved in the work. That is the holy grail? I get that the goal is to "grow" biofuels, plastic, fertilizer, drugs, or whatever else we can imagine. But is that worth the many apocalyptic sci-fi outcomes we can ima…
> That is the holy grail? At one end we're creating artificial life , the other we are creating artificial intelligence . We're coming at everything we as the human race have known for millennia from both ends, simultaneously. We're recreating that, from scratch. That is absolutely fucking wild. Ironically this "holy" grail will end up being the thing that finally puts religious creation myths in their place (i.e. as…
You if believe creating life will end religion then you're wrong.
We thought evolutionary theory would do the same, now we got people who believe god directed evolution. Some believe everything evolved from a common ancestor except Humans.
So the believers will adapt to believe that Genesis was talking about exactly this.
Re: For first time, a cell built from scratch grows and divides
#64"The cell is not alive by any definition..." "But it’s the strongest demonstration yet that it is possible to generate life from nonlife." Contradicting themself in the same paragraph.
The wheel is not a car. However a wheel is a strong indication that car-like structures are at least possible.
Re: For first time, a cell built from scratch grows and divides
#65Waiting for lab-grown meat. Hope it comes closer to fruition before my kidneys give out.
let me put it this way .. it will come before the wallet gives out! (for masses)
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#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
> aliens that seeded life on Earth are seeing us making baby steps Or like a grad student didn’t dispose of their work properly and are desperately trying to distract from their scandal.
I vastly prefer the explanation like of Roadside Picnic. They didn't try to create us, they don't care that we're here, and, ultimately, we will never be able to know them in any meaningful sense. ;)
https://shkrobius.livejournal.com/401292.html offers a fascinating narrative rooted in cell biology
Re: For first time, a cell built from scratch grows and divides
#67This is awesome! Can someone in this field comment on the implications of sidestepping the cytoskeleton?
Yes, this is definitely awesome. In eukaryotic cells (your cells) the cytoskeleton is needed to shape the cell, position DNA, and most importantly for this study, separate daughter cells allowing replication. Think of the complexity here, you need to make compartments to separate the copies of the genetic material, physically separated during division. Microtubules assemble the "mitotic spindle" and then pulls the si…
And the synthetic cell doesn't need to do anything about separating genetic material between daughter cells because it's just free-floating DNA that is likely to be in both parts. Right?
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#68> “It’s a big step forward to this holy grail of making a living thing out of dead components,” said Sijbren Otto, a systems chemist at the Stratingh Institute for Chemistry in the Netherlands who was not involved in the work. That is the holy grail? I get that the goal is to "grow" biofuels, plastic, fertilizer, drugs, or whatever else we can imagine. But is that worth the many apocalyptic sci-fi outcomes we can ima…
> That is the holy grail? At one end we're creating artificial life , the other we are creating artificial intelligence . We're coming at everything we as the human race have known for millennia from both ends, simultaneously. We're recreating that, from scratch. That is absolutely fucking wild. Ironically this "holy" grail will end up being the thing that finally puts religious creation myths in their place (i.e. as…
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#69> “It’s a big step forward to this holy grail of making a living thing out of dead components,” said Sijbren Otto, a systems chemist at the Stratingh Institute for Chemistry in the Netherlands who was not involved in the work. That is the holy grail? I get that the goal is to "grow" biofuels, plastic, fertilizer, drugs, or whatever else we can imagine. But is that worth the many apocalyptic sci-fi outcomes we can ima…
> That is the holy grail? At one end we're creating artificial life , the other we are creating artificial intelligence . We're coming at everything we as the human race have known for millennia from both ends, simultaneously. We're recreating that, from scratch. That is absolutely fucking wild. Ironically this "holy" grail will end up being the thing that finally puts religious creation myths in their place (i.e. as…
Wait you think creating life disapproves creationism?
I’m no 7 day creationist but haha my guy…
Re: For first time, a cell built from scratch grows and divides
#70That is closer to consciousness than AI will ever be. :)
Elan conscietal? (a pun on elan vital)