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TabFM: A zero-shot foundation model for tabular data

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Re: TabFM: A zero-shot foundation model for tabular data

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150,000 rows of data, where will I store it all?!

You don't need to. Just sample 1% of data, let the model do the feature engineering, ask model model to replicate everything in Pandas (or R, or whatever else), so you can run it for a full dataset.

Re: TabFM: A zero-shot foundation model for tabular data

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GitHub Repo: Please see the results folder Results folder: Here's some undocumented parquet files Definitely feels like they're hiding the ball lol. If they had good benchmarks they'd talk about them. Not comparing to tuned xgboost is also a warning sign.

wouldn't xgboost be covered under autogluon? not perfect, but not missing either

Honestly, I don't really know AutoGluon, if this does xgboost tuning that's good.

I do still think ELO scores are still a way to obscure results though. For all we know this is like 0.1% better than a "normal" approach on like 70% of tasks and a tire fire on others.

Re: TabFM: A zero-shot foundation model for tabular data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

wouldn't xgboost be covered under autogluon? not perfect, but not missing either

Honestly, I don't really know AutoGluon, if this does xgboost tuning that's good. I do still think ELO scores are still a way to obscure results though. For all we know this is like 0.1% better than a "normal" approach on like 70% of tasks and a tire fire on others.

AutoGluon does their own benchmarking, the default is Elo, but you can switch to other metrics:

https://huggingface.co/spaces/TabArena/leaderboard

xgboost is listed, they say "tuned" but who knows what that means. and its below CatBoost and LightGBM

as an aggregator of models (trees, neural networks, clustering, ...) AutoGluon doesn't really have a dog in this fight

Re: TabFM: A zero-shot foundation model for tabular data

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly, I don't really know AutoGluon, if this does xgboost tuning that's good. I do still think ELO scores are still a way to obscure results though. For all we know this is like 0.1% better than a "normal" approach on like 70% of tasks and a tire fire on others.

AutoGluon does their own benchmarking, the default is Elo, but you can switch to other metrics: https://huggingface.co/spaces/TabArena/leaderboard xgboost is listed, they say "tuned" but who knows what that means. and its below CatBoost and LightGBM as an aggregator of models (trees, neural networks, clustering, ...) AutoGluon doesn't really have a dog in this fight

Thanks for the pointer, though I can't seem to find TabFM and AutoGluon at that link?
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