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Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Do you mean "grow up", or do you mean "stop enjoying things you used to enjoy"?

If you enjoyed something as a much younger person, and enjoy it as a much older person, it is very unlikely that it is the thing itself that you are enjoying. To test it, you can try giving that thing to someone your age and see if they enjoy it (they will most likely think it's a nuisance). To experience it yourself, you can try what kids are into these days or even better try something that people used to like long…

I'm not even understanding the topic of discussion. Nostalgia bad?

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

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Why would anyone “buy” movies from PlayStation . That’s not their business, I would never have expected them to be in it for the long haul, just like MS did a rug pull on this a few years ago didn’t they?

Convenience? Maybe a belief the media would be accessible for a long time, versus the ever-changing catalog available from streaming services? Consumers are lured into walled-gardens all the time - consoles, app stores, hardware. Where would you suggest someone purchase a digital license for a movie?

Apple has been selling movies for far longer haven’t they? Amazon is clearly invested in the space. Even Google.

From a video game store is the part I find odd. I get walled gardens. Not this one for this purpose.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

#184
The PSN store does have sales often and digital games can be up to 90% off even AAA titles. This news has me wondering how the supply of used physical copies drives game prices lower. It's possible that eliminating physical releases gives Sony the pricing power to eliminate sales, or at least cut back from the huge sales they do currently.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

#185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you mean "grow up", or do you mean "stop enjoying things you used to enjoy"?

If you enjoyed something as a much younger person, and enjoy it as a much older person, it is very unlikely that it is the thing itself that you are enjoying. To test it, you can try giving that thing to someone your age and see if they enjoy it (they will most likely think it's a nuisance). To experience it yourself, you can try what kids are into these days or even better try something that people used to like long…

>To experience it yourself, you can try what kids are into these days

What do you mean? I'll try anything if I think it will appeal to me, but I don't know any children to ask what they're into to conduct this experiment.

>or even better try something that people used to like long before you were born, in which case you will very likely see these things as pointless quite quickly.

Like how long? I like classical music. I don't really like theater. I read Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and liked it; I read Martín Fierro and hated it. What conclusion do we draw from all this?

>If you observe these things, it is easy to see that nostalgia is enjoyable because it is about associating your youth and naiveté with the object of nostalgia.

No, I don't agree. I don't agree that I derive nostalgic enjoyment from the examples I gave previously. I think that I can enjoy them because they're familiar things that I can engage with as a matter of routine. I can enjoy them for the same reason I biked to work through the same route for over ten years straight without getting bored. Someone completely new cannot derive that same routinary enjoyment. For example, DOOM is basically just as old as Duke Nukem 3D, but I only played it many years later, and so I never finished it (but I also don't think I would have liked it as much back in the day; the gameplay is just not as good. I should try other Build games to see how they compare). As another example, I should definitely feel nostalgia for Saint Seiya, but I tried multiple times just couldn't get through it. It's just for children, an adult can't miss the obvious plot holes. But I saw The Lion King in the theater and then dozens of times on VHS, and then dozens more times off my NAS 20+ years later, and loved it every time -- as an adult I just could better understand why it was so good.

>If you grew up

You're asking to be told off.

>you would see that it is just some distraction that merchants brought to you to profit from your stupidity. If you realize this, you'll enjoy not having to deal with that shit a lot more.

I don't "deal with" the things I like. I like them. Engaging with them is not something I'm forced to do that I have to cope with. Are you an alien? What do you do for fun? Stack rocks on the beach? Or is fun a foreign concept to you?

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

#187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you enjoyed something as a much younger person, and enjoy it as a much older person, it is very unlikely that it is the thing itself that you are enjoying. To test it, you can try giving that thing to someone your age and see if they enjoy it (they will most likely think it's a nuisance). To experience it yourself, you can try what kids are into these days or even better try something that people used to like long…

I'm not even understanding the topic of discussion. Nostalgia bad?

Your enjoyment isn’t pure in the sense you genuinely enjoy the thing for what it is.

You enjoy it mostly because you’ve enjoyed it once before.

Regardless, it is not even an argument for physical media, you don’t even have physical copies of these old games, and even if you did, holding the physical copy wouldn’t add anything to your experience besides a bit of novelty.

Physical discs should be obsolete.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

#188
That will put them in direct competition with Steam, though. Suddenly their cheaper console will result in way higher cost for the lifetime of the console.

Killing the used market is a very bad idea. Remember what happened with xbox?

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

#189

Rip main stream physical game market. Long live independent physical game market. We already see people with 3d printed carts, designing labels and making their own homebrew games for retro consoles. Some people are also producing their own big box PC games for the hell of it. As I continue to largely ignore AAA & mainstream gaming companies I look forward to how the indie gaming market takes advantage of everyone's…

Nearly all of the people who sell third party physical carts and media are also selling digital versions as well, which sell in much greater numbers.

The physicality is a novelty, much like vinyl records. It’s a market sure, but not a significant one that calls for a paradigm shift.

Re: Physical disc production ending in Jan 2028 for new games on PlayStation

#190

I used to think this was bad, but honestly? It’s just games. Some people buy tons of digital games they literally never even play. If they were physical games, imagine all the e-waste. And what’s the point of physical games? So you can play the game in 30 years from now on some retro console you’ve diligently maintained? Get over it, you’re not going to do any of that. There’s no mythical third act where you go throu…

Replace 'games' with 'books' in your comment. Would you feel the same way?

No because shelves full of books make great decorations and sound proofing in between walls.
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