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Leanstral 1.5

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Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by troyvit »

helloplanets wrote: post #55

Tangential, but I'm pretty sad about EU having absolutely nothing in the actual SotA LLM market. Especially given the recent events of US completely restricting the actual SotA models. Has this been just pure lack of funding and infra?

Mistral is generally winning the fights it chooses to fight and that's what they need to do.

Instead of looking at what EU's economy could contribute towards a SotA model it's more accurate to look at what France's economy could contribute, then compare that to the US or China. The scale isn't there. Instead what I like to see is what they can accomplish with that lower scale, and it's stuff like Leanstral, Voxtral and other niche products.

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by falcor84 »

throw1234567891 wrote: post #72
puppymaster wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I laughed and cried at this comment. It's so uncannily EU. Just spent 18 months landing an EU enterprise contract. Signed today and sent it back and got an automated message 'sorry will be on vacation til end of July...' This is the fourth vacation emails I got since corresponding with this contact window for the past 1 year.

Yes, we have more vacation in the EU than people in the US.

It's absolutely possible for individual employees to have generous vacations, while at the same time maintaining a continuously staffed support function.

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by msdz »

helloplanets wrote: post #55

Tangential, but I'm pretty sad about EU having absolutely nothing in the actual SotA LLM market. Especially given the recent events of US completely restricting the actual SotA models. Has this been just pure lack of funding and infra?

> Has this been just pure lack of funding and infra?

For the most part, yes.

France and Germany are the two biggest EU economies. France has well, Mistral, and we here have a government-funded VC entity that is way too proud [1] to be able to offer a whopping… €125 million (have been one about three to four years ago.

It's a pity, really.

[1] (in German) https://www.sprind.org/worte/magazin/verkuendung-next-fronti...

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by refulgentis »

urbsgpw wrote: post #62
cavenditti wrote: post #50

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This. Best OCR provider by measure and it’s been for years

Hmm, not sure I'd agree. I really like google's offering there (they suck at coding agents but their OCR is good value for money - well up till the latest flash model which has got wicked expensive). See also https://www.ocrarena.ai/leaderboard I know these leaderboards are iffy, but at least my experience has been somewhat similar.

Thank you for sharing this, I’ve had some disquiet around the release blogs…something felt cherry-picked and I didn’t know there was a 3rd party source for evals, that settles it easily - like you said they can be iffy but there’s a clear enough gap and large set of models for me to let go of the idea it’s the best by some margin.

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by segmondy »

helloplanets wrote: post #55

Tangential, but I'm pretty sad about EU having absolutely nothing in the actual SotA LLM market. Especially given the recent events of US completely restricting the actual SotA models. Has this been just pure lack of funding and infra?

Culture

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by valesco »

dopidopHN2 wrote: post #89
nkmnz wrote: post #87

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I am German living in Germany and yes, I think not organizing a holiday replacement when you leave for more than a week is a sign of negligence and indifference; but unfortunately, it becomes more and more common to behave in that way. Many projects don't make any progress between mid of June and late August, depending on the number and diversity of stakeholders. I'd like to declare these ~10 weeks "individual contri…

Aaah the perfect German neighbors. Always right, always on top of things. What can you do? I guess we're in vacance? Oupsy. *shrug in french* Bisous !

Wait I'm Belgian and it is basically unheard of that a company cannot answer a customer's message for a month.

If it is a small company, then the owner will answer. If it is bigger, holidays will be planned so that no interruption will occur.

Companies can close completely for a week, usually between Christmas and New Year. That's all.

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by ray_v »

thih9 wrote: post #78
Grimblewald wrote: post #33

Got curious, sign up, add money to account, try to use. Can't, it's a labs model. Fine, let's enable labs. Can't, unspecified error. Fine, lets contact customer support as instructed, can't no customer support, just a half-assed FAQ, that seems vibe-coded and searched poorly, totally irrelevant answers coming up for all queries tried. Then it hit me: If AI makes good customer support, then why does no AI company use…

> If AI makes good customer support, then why does no AI company use theirs to provide customer support? They do! E.g. Cursor. See earlier discussions like "Cursor IDE support hallucinates lockout policy, causes user cancellations"[1]. [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43683012

thanks! I hate it!

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by sajithdilshan »

Grimblewald wrote: post #33

Got curious, sign up, add money to account, try to use. Can't, it's a labs model. Fine, let's enable labs. Can't, unspecified error. Fine, lets contact customer support as instructed, can't no customer support, just a half-assed FAQ, that seems vibe-coded and searched poorly, totally irrelevant answers coming up for all queries tried. Then it hit me: If AI makes good customer support, then why does no AI company use…

You got the authentic European customer support. In America the customer is king and in Europe the customer is shit

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by ekianjo »

throw1234567891 wrote: post #72
puppymaster wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I laughed and cried at this comment. It's so uncannily EU. Just spent 18 months landing an EU enterprise contract. Signed today and sent it back and got an automated message 'sorry will be on vacation til end of July...' This is the fourth vacation emails I got since corresponding with this contact window for the past 1 year.

Yes, we have more vacation in the EU than people in the US.

it's more like nothing even happens in summer.

Re: Leanstral 1.5

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Post by sajithdilshan »

embedding-shape wrote: post #95
nok22kon wrote: post #91

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it's because there is no incentive in general in EU to be excellent at your job. good or bad, you get the same pay, and dont get compensated for bringing extra value to the company so naturally employees have a "fuck you" attitude

Obviously untrue, any place on earth you get rewarded for being better at your job, either directly by being promoted or after asking/getting a higher salary, or indirectly by being able to change jobs by outright being better. This is true in most sectors, especially in software where it's really easy to switch jobs if you have the slightest amount of brain power. Where are all these misconceptions come from? And ho…

As a software engineer that has worked in multiple German companies I can tell you that it’s not the case, or at least in Germany. If you do an amazing job, they would praise you and give you a promotion with 2% salary increase and more work. To add salt to the I wound, your colleague that has been on paternity leave for 3 months and on sick leave for 4 months would get the same salary increase
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