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A retrospective of my time on the internet

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Re: A retrospective of my time on the internet

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Post by Borg3 »

anthk wrote: post #2

It's still there, at IRC/Usenet/some niche forums. Replace phreaking with maybe some mesh networks and ways to connect computers without calling an ISP. There are still niche blogs and even phlogs . And you can still use Pidgin and libpurple plugins to connect to a huge array of protocols. Ditto with core Biltbee or Bitlbee+libpurple allowing you to use any IRC client (even the ones without TLS for DOS and Win9X) to…

I dont understand fastination of gopher... its inferior protocol compared to HTTP. Yes, today HTTP2/0 and up is bloated crap. But hey, you know there is good old HTTP1/1 that still can be used? Why bother with gopher when you can setup nice and lean webpage? Okey. there is one valid point for that, AI scrappers..

Re: A retrospective of my time on the internet

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Post by hypfer »

It might be that we just have to accept that the internet and us simply grew apart. But right now, we still seem to be lacking the imagination to engineer new spaces beyond it.

And the stamina, probably. Convenience bred laziness.

It might change though. Change through disruption. Disruption that will not be without collateral. As always.

I for one am curious how hostile of a place the internet will become before the successor arises. How will it even look like? Will it be using IPv12?

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Man, I wish reticulum wasn't broken by design. It has so many cool future ideas, but pinning all that on a hard dependency to crypto that _will_ be broken is just so dumb.

That and lack of hardening against really any sort of malicious actor.

Someone please build reticulum with those things fixed.

It could be so cool. Decentralized, medium-agnostic, meshing. The spirit of the old web, transported partially via LoRa radio, partially via fiber and partially via pigeon (optional) without you as the user noticing + without the Lord Jesus Christ denying your connection before marriage.

Re: A retrospective of my time on the internet

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Post by ramon156 »

armchairhacker wrote: post #8

> Turn on your computer - most likely Windows 10 or 11. > You open your default browser - most likely Chrome. > …your browser (most likely Google) will show you an AI summary… > Once you solve all that, there's a cookie banner waiting for you that gives you two options: > Oh wait, you're interrupted again. This site requires age verification to view its contents. Those are your problems. Why not use Linux (or even ma…

This part is speaking about the average joe, which does not use linux, and does not use firefox. Yes, these decisions technically change things, but it's not that black and white of an issue

Re: A retrospective of my time on the internet

#14

Post by intended »

smalltorch wrote: post #10

With enough pressure, corporate reliance may become unpopular and push people to become more sovereign. The first time I realized there was no permission slip to setting up an onion service I remember thinking this is how it was supposed to be and shocked at the simplicity and ease. I really don't think there is a big enough billboard about this. Id love to see the community build on top of these principles and make…

This framing sets up variables incorrectly.

People have only a limited amount of time, energy, and hence capacity to process information in a day.

People used to go and are still going to facebook, because Facebook makes some part of that equation easier.

There’s many knock on effects, but the issue that is the biggest factor which will prevent people from following.

Re: A retrospective of my time on the internet

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Post by singpolyma3 »

Borg3 wrote: post #11
anthk wrote: post #2

It's still there, at IRC/Usenet/some niche forums. Replace phreaking with maybe some mesh networks and ways to connect computers without calling an ISP. There are still niche blogs and even phlogs . And you can still use Pidgin and libpurple plugins to connect to a huge array of protocols. Ditto with core Biltbee or Bitlbee+libpurple allowing you to use any IRC client (even the ones without TLS for DOS and Win9X) to…

I dont understand fastination of gopher... its inferior protocol compared to HTTP. Yes, today HTTP2/0 and up is bloated crap. But hey, you know there is good old HTTP1/1 that still can be used? Why bother with gopher when you can setup nice and lean webpage? Okey. there is one valid point for that, AI scrappers..

If you're just serving static pages the scrapers aren't going to be a problem

Re: A retrospective of my time on the internet

#16

Post by intended »

anthk wrote: post #2

It's still there, at IRC/Usenet/some niche forums. Replace phreaking with maybe some mesh networks and ways to connect computers without calling an ISP. There are still niche blogs and even phlogs . And you can still use Pidgin and libpurple plugins to connect to a huge array of protocols. Ditto with core Biltbee or Bitlbee+libpurple allowing you to use any IRC client (even the ones without TLS for DOS and Win9X) to…

This is what you and some people may do.

The internet which is being mourned was that period where it was better for the people who couldn’t make those changes.

There are always a few people who can manage to insulate themselves. Still, however well you insulate yourself, you are impacted by what happens to the majority, or the direction they vote.

Re: A retrospective of my time on the internet

#18

Post by BLKNSLVR »

On the flipside, I was able to purchase three albums in FLAC format, DRM free, from an obscure band that I thought wouldn't have a legitimate path to purchase.

https://boomkat.com/artists/magic-lantern

I also use Linux exclusively at home, with a paranoid-level of lists added to my pihole, so I don't see anywhere near as much friction as the average user.

Re: A retrospective of my time on the internet

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Post by Delphiza »

lizknope wrote: post #7

It looks like it starts with: >I was born in the late 1990s >2001: The Family Computer I was both in 1975 and my first experience with the Internet was in 1991 when I was 16. I thought it was amazing. There were Usenet forums for thousands of topics and places where nerds could talk about stuff from bands to TV shows to programming languages. There was no graphical World Wide Web (unless you worked at CERN) We had to…

I had the same weird feeling reading the post. Where OP was 'living there' in 2007, I was building sophisticated apps with big teams to do things build commercial insurance systems. I don't know whether I built the things that OP missed about the old days, or paved over the things that he used as a child.

If there is one thing I miss about the Internet that I grew up with, it is the trust and self-policing. We were on forums (even usenet) and got along. Now it is all walled gardens, rage bait, racism, and people shouting at each other.

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