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Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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post #184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> any kind of secure boot / boot chain attestation [...] rebooting clears out pretty much all malware IMHO "pretty much" understates the risk. Malware can easily install itself as a system service, timer unit, XDG autostart or your shell profile among other places. I'll be the first to admit I never check all these places regularly. The only thing that should be putting minds at ease is regular OS installs from fresh…

If you go with an immutable OS like Fedora Silverblue or Bazzite, every single update is a clean ISO install. And then in your user only install things through Flatpak while checking there aren't dangerous permissions enabled you will be much better off than a normal linux setup were mutations can be placed all over the place in a way that is impossible to audit or secure.

Not for $HOME and ~/.profile and such.

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Nope.

    frankenpad25 vermaden ~ % uname -prism
    FreeBSD 14.4-RELEASE-p6 amd64 amd64 GENERIC
    
    frankenpad25 vermaden ~ % uptime --libxo=json | jless | jq
    {
      "uptime-information": {
        "time-of-day": "12:50PM",
        "uptime": 790654,
        "days": 9,
        "hours": 3,
        "minutes": 37,
        "seconds": 34,
        "uptime-human": "9 days,  3:38",
        "users": 15,
        "load-average-1": 2.72,
        "load-average-5": 2.54,
        "load-average-15": 2.00
      }
    }

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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I remember when Linux users were practically obsessive about uptime and restarting felt like a sign of failure. This was at a time when Windows seemingly needed to restart once or twice a day, at least. These days I like to turn my work Mac off at the end of the week just so I feel a literal sense of closure. It's not really the applications minimizing and running in the background; it's ME.

> I remember when Linux users were practically obsessive about uptime and restarting felt like a sign of failure I remember it too, like it was yesterday. Wait - it was yesterday. I see people rebooting Linux boxes to cargo cult trying to fix all kinds of issues and I’m like - rebooting is not a solution. This is not Microsoft Windows.

and I’m like - rebooting is not a solution. This is not Microsoft Windows.

Reminds me of the old joke:

"Thank you for calling Dell support. Have you tried turning it off and on?"

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

#345

I.. I cannot restart my computer. Why? I work at a smallish agency as a developer. A few years ago we were acquired by a massive global corporation as part of the typical vertical integration strategy these big boys usually run with. Anyway, that’s all dandy as we otherwise would have perished during Covid. But this parent company, as many others, have some rather stringent security policies when it comes to IT. They…

but don't you have a separate personal computer that you own, and this cursed computer would be property of the company?

Otherwise if they are asking you to install this in your personal computer, I just wouldn't and I would submit a request to procurement for a corporate laptop.

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

#346

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is your bosses problem. Apply security patches and reboot. Find a book to read.

Yeah.. that’s a bit where the shoe pinches. We could just grab a book and lean back - but being 0.017% (!) of the total global workforce (we’re ~70) we’d easily be seen as insignificant if we continuously don’t meet our targets. So we’re a bit stuck between a rock and a hard place. Do we keep rolling our rock up the hill and keep going, or risk it rolling over us and squooshing us into oblivion? At this point, I’m re…

> I enjoy my job a lot

I'll be real with you, I wouldn't make a throwaway account to talk about a bad company policy if I enjoyed my job.

I'd recommend looking for another, the job market is nowhere near as bad as people claim (at least for non-junior positions).

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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I remember when Linux users were practically obsessive about uptime and restarting felt like a sign of failure. This was at a time when Windows seemingly needed to restart once or twice a day, at least. These days I like to turn my work Mac off at the end of the week just so I feel a literal sense of closure. It's not really the applications minimizing and running in the background; it's ME.

If you aren’t rebooting a Linux box 15 to 30 times per year then you aren’t applying kernel security updates. I view uptime fanatics as walking security problems and assign an appropriately low trust value for their actions on computers in general.

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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post #200

I've been keeping my desktop machines running 24/7 for ~25 years. I only reboot when necessary. I remember having around 280 days of uptime on Windows 7 when it went end of life. Having a UPS helps a lot to protect against short power outages or blips. Nowadays I run Arch Linux, it's been 12 days since a reboot. Not trying to break records, I reboot to apply kernel updates when it's convenient. Since I use tmux and h…

> 24/7 for ~25 years

r u ok?

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