Surprised this post has less engagement than the Sonnet announcement. Much bigger deal, even with caveats.
Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.
The good news (for you and most everyone other than the current leading AI companies), the gap between the SOTA and the near-frontiers is getting smaller every week or two. The leading Chinese models are only a few months behind now (GLM 5.2 tickles the tail of GPT 5.3 or 5.4 and Opus 4.6, according to benchmarks and the vibes among heavy users who've spent some time with it), where they were a couple of years behind…
So I keep hearing.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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No you don't; it's often overkill to use the SOTA models. People want SOTA because it's shiny, but there are a lot of tasks where it's cheaper and more efficient to use other models.
> but there are a lot of tasks where it's cheaper and more efficient to use other models. Sure… but which ones? How can you know ahead of time? I just did a “simple” upgrade project where both me and the AI kept tripping over dead code, subtle typos, and difficult-to-trace live versus dead code. Many times I used “Medium” thinking I got bitten, but not every time, and I couldn’t predict when. So “Extra high” it was,…
Exactly. I simply don't have the time to deal with non-SOTA model output.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#374Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is. If you make money from doing anything like "produce software with as little human involvement as possible", then sure, you need SOTA models. In that case, though, the value you add is very little and you probably don't…
You also don't really need LLM's, we still have software engineers too. Everyone is focusing so heavily on the speed gain producing code, but in my experience clients of established products aren't really waiting for massive changes and gigantic features to be added. We aren't taking the time to think things through anymore.
> clients of established products aren't really waiting for massive changes and gigantic features to be added
In some cases they do. I work in a B2B vertical SaaS company and there’s both features that competitors build or rough edges around our features that make clients go „either we get X or we sign with someone else”. I agree though with the general sentiment that you don’t need SOTA models to build those - humans or humans + mid pack strong model will do.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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Any news why?
They don't speak the same [proverbial] language essentially. Dario and the WH talk about this stuff completely differently. https://archive.is/9k7qt#selection-2001.41-2001.49 https://archive.is/dybOE
To be fair is quite hard to actually understand what this White House is saying most of the time
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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> Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available via usage credits. > The new classifier also comes at the cost of flagging benign requests more often during routine coding and debugging tasks. Here's Fable 5, the strongest model. Actually try to use it to harden your code and it turns into Opus 4.8. You have seven days to use it, and only half of that t…
> Looks like it's going to be a thoroughly frustrating experience, even worse than initial rollout. Honestly, why bother with it? They are effectively just releasing the model in-name, but we just get Opus 4.8.
Yeah. I'm gonna ask Fable to code review my other projects and I guess that's it.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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I measured an ~8x increase in my project's commit count after AI, and I'm painstakingly reading, reviewing, understanding and editing everything the models write. It's gotten to the point I'm trying to slow down in order to let the new knowledge crystallize. I'm manually writing articles about what I'm doing as I go. I can only imagine what people are doing at their jobs with unlimited token budgets.
Kind of weird how LoC has become a metric for people to chase again.
In my case it was commits, not lines of code. I wasn't chasing after it, I just asked Claude to calculate some statistics after a month or so of AI usage.
It's not just statistics either. I know for a fact that I made major progress by using LLMs. Here's a summary from around a month ago:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48407642
AI is world changing technology as far as I'm concerned.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#378Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a small software business owner in Europe. I have to assume my competition is willing to pay for any business advantage they can get. And so I also have to pay for the SOTA model, whatever it is.
For businesses where this is true, they also need to be able to switch provider quickly in case the best provider changes. It's almost identical to the possibility of one model getting shut down for a business that doesn't care about SOTA.
Yeah I have both the Claude and Codex 100 dollar subscriptions and I try to use both. I also keep the 20 dollar Cursor subscription as there I can play around with everything. I also refuse to use any harness specific features. Claude is particularly annoying with this in that it's the only one that doesn't respect open config standards like .agents/skills
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
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If the competitive risk is real, then are choosing between supplier risk (AI model access) and competitive risk. When there isn't a zero-risk option, the question becomes which risk is smaller.
You can compete by being smart and using less-than-sota models and build a more solid business around them
I use whatever model is SOTA. I switch between them in order to avoid lock in.
Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5
#380Silly me for hoping they'd actually honor their original 14-day promise. Per their latest blog post, they've generously slashed the timeline to 7 days, but wait there's more! It's now limited to 50% of your weekly usage: > Fable 5 will be available starting tomorrow, Wednesday, July 1, to users globally... Fable 5 will be included for up to 50% of weekly usage limits through July 7, after which it will be available v…
If they really cared about their image among their user base and wanted to undo a little bit of damage they've already done via various policies and decisions, keeping the limits and duration the same as before the ban (or slightly being more generous with them) would have been a really cheap way for them to do that. Alas...