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Re: Claude Sonnet 5

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #437
AquinasCoder wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I appreciate, they publish this information, it's increasingly hard to keep track of it all. I've lost the mental model of how different models at different effort levels perform and what tasks they are good at. In practice, I tend to just use the default on Claude Code that works well enough. But I wonder to what degree other users really play around with these settings to optimize for their project.

I always use Opus 4.8 at max effort for everything. The $20 subscription didn't have enough tokens, but the $100 one had too many of them. So now I just max out Opus in order to maintain 100% weekly utilization.

I'm a senior skilled developer and I find Anthropic $20 + Open AI $20 + OpenCode Go $10 offers more value than $100 on any particular service.

Juggling between all different models/agents is quite simple with Zed.

A caution about OpenCode Go though, the entire company seems to be run by AI so there's lot of billing related issues with zero support. I subscribe new every month as I lost money due to double payment with automatic subscription.

For non coding related tasks I use local models.

P.S. If anyone is interested to read more about my setup, let me know I'll publish a blog post.

Re: Claude Sonnet 5

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Post by casey2 »

kelnos wrote: post #567
jimbo808 wrote: post #514

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're actively trying to use lobbying power to make open weight models illegal. So I'm just not going to use their services at all anymore. I don't think they're a net gain if you're a skilled senior, and the hidden cost in terms of technical debt and skill atrophy is just being swept under the rug. I'll be okay without their bullshit generator.

Why even bother posting, especially as a reply to a completely unrelated comment? This is just not substantive or useful to the conversation. (And I say this as someone who agrees with you that it's garbage that these companies are trying to legislate their way into an oligopoly.)

If you give Anthropic money they will make your life worse in another aspect, it's relevant to all their models. The best principle is to not give money to people who want to harm you.

Anthropic has gone past fearmongering and well into terrorism. I think people on Hacker News should not recommend working with terrorist orgs.

Re: Claude Sonnet 5

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Post by matheusmoreira »

chewz wrote: post #556
matheusmoreira wrote: post #437

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I always use Opus 4.8 at max effort for everything. The $20 subscription didn't have enough tokens, but the $100 one had too many of them. So now I just max out Opus in order to maintain 100% weekly utilization.

This is actually very counterproductive with Opus 4.8 - you are wasting a lot of time. For Opus 4.8 training with overblown internal dialogue and second opinions - Max effort burns just tokens and wastes time without much value. Spinning wheels.

Even with Opus 4.8 I have to try pretty hard to maintain 100% weekly usage. I'm actively trying not to be efficient at this point.

Now that the ban is lifted, max effort Fable 5 is gonna solve this problem quite neatly. Fable to plan and review, Sonnet for the implementation.

Wait, never mind that. Subscribers will only have Fable for a week.

Re: Claude Sonnet 5

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Post by anon373839 »

andsoitis wrote: post #565
anon373839 wrote: post #532

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He has also been telling bald-faced lies about open source/open weights models that are easily disproved. For example, he claimed that they lack the collaborative benefits of open source because "we can't see inside the model". Open weights models are responsible for enabling reams of research on interpretability methods that do just that. And they have facilitated so much collaboration on architecture, inference opt…

Doesn’t this seem true / self-evident: “His warns that once powerful models are released openly, companies lose the ability to monitor misuse, revoke access, or update safety guardrails.”

The premise (that "powerful models" implicate "safety" concerns that must be controlled by "companies") does not seem true or self-evident to me. This tired fearmongering campaign centered on GPT-4 three years ago, a model now surpassed by open models that run on laptops.

Did fearmongers like Amodei say, "Oops, we were wrong! It wasn't that dangerous after all"? No. Of course they didn't.

Re: Claude Sonnet 5

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Post by cunningfatalist »

sanderjd wrote: post #362
cunningfatalist wrote: post #244

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You might want to check out Amp: https://ampcode.com/

I appreciate the suggestion! But it isn't clear to me, from reading their marketing site, what they bring to the table from this perspective. Can you give me a more targeted pitch?

Sorry for the late answer and the missing context. usef- is right, the manual is probably the better page to share. Amp tries to give you a plug and play experience, where you can always see the actual costs and models/effort are autoselected for you. Some of my colleagues are big fans and use it a lot. I also like it, but prefer OpenCode.

Re: Claude Sonnet 5

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Post by throwaway27448 »

jimbo808 wrote: post #514
doctoboggan wrote: post #29

The cost per task chart is telling me that I should _never_ use Sonnet 5 above medium effort level - Opus always performs better for a given cost. So I guess the takeaway is that if Sonnet 5 medium isn't good enough for you, switch models, not effort levels.

They're actively trying to use lobbying power to make open weight models illegal. So I'm just not going to use their services at all anymore. I don't think they're a net gain if you're a skilled senior, and the hidden cost in terms of technical debt and skill atrophy is just being swept under the rug. I'll be okay without their bullshit generator.

Making software illegal is not an easy task.

Re: Claude Sonnet 5

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Post by throwaway27448 »

pmarreck wrote: post #557
jimbo808 wrote: post #514

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're actively trying to use lobbying power to make open weight models illegal. So I'm just not going to use their services at all anymore. I don't think they're a net gain if you're a skilled senior, and the hidden cost in terms of technical debt and skill atrophy is just being swept under the rug. I'll be okay without their bullshit generator.

> I don't think they're a net gain if you're a skilled senior I'm a skilled senior (I'm 54 and been coding since I was about 8; I've been 100% AI-generated code for at least 6 months now and have produced a combination of speed and quality that has astonished me; my velocity is apparent at https://github.com/pmarreck/ ) and this has been a massive net gain, so your claim is now officially in sheer defiance of reality…

Have you really found claude to much more more capable than eg deepseek? Anthropic has little to no chance of producing a competitive business model in the long term.

Re: Claude Sonnet 5

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Post by kamaal »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #571
matheusmoreira wrote: post #437

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always use Opus 4.8 at max effort for everything. The $20 subscription didn't have enough tokens, but the $100 one had too many of them. So now I just max out Opus in order to maintain 100% weekly utilization.

I'm a senior skilled developer and I find Anthropic $20 + Open AI $20 + OpenCode Go $10 offers more value than $100 on any particular service. Juggling between all different models/agents is quite simple with Zed. A caution about OpenCode Go though, the entire company seems to be run by AI so there's lot of billing related issues with zero support. I subscribe new every month as I lost money due to double payment wit…

>>For non coding related tasks I use local models.

What sort of hardware are you using to run local models? And how do you use them?

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