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Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by unknownfuture »

adrianmonk wrote: post #104
parodysbird wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a great recipe for going out of business.

If the competitive risk is real, then are choosing between supplier risk (AI model access) and competitive risk. When there isn't a zero-risk option, the question becomes which risk is smaller.

> If the competitive risk is real

Yes.

If.

Man I hope this tech FOMO eventually stops.

Companies generally fail because either their product doesn't meet a market need, or the market doesn't exist in the first place (possible because of bad timing), and not because they simply outran their competitors.

These aren't things fixed by using a frontier model to vibe code faster in lieu of one 5 months behind.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by matheusmoreira »

K0balt wrote: post #99
echelon wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speed.

This x 10 . I don’t understand how people are saying you can’t use LLMs to get crazy productivity gains. If you can’t write quality code with LLMs at ludicrous speed, you’re holding it wrong. You will have occasional bad days and regressions. But overall you’re still going to be able to 4x your progress.

I measured an ~8x increase in my project's commit count after AI, and I'm painstakingly reading, reviewing, understanding and editing everything the models write. It's gotten to the point I'm trying to slow down in order to let the new knowledge crystallize. I'm manually writing articles about what I'm doing as I go.

I can only imagine what people are doing at their jobs with unlimited token budgets.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by trunnell »

stavarotti wrote: post #55

I just finished reading Incorruptible and a central theme (Anthropic is a case study) is that trust is singularly the most important currency a business has. The past few weeks have done wonders for Anthropic’s marketing but just as much if not more damage to the trust factor. Businesses will continue to use Anthropic because it’s the default and accessible where it matters (AWS, Azure, GCP, Databricks, Snowflake, et…

There is no reason to have less trust in Anthropic. It's not clear they did anything wrong. It's more likely the White House simply tied itself in knots, consistent with the last year and a half of chaos from them.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by artisin »

bluepeter wrote: post #202

Fable 5 apparently can't be used for coding? (This is from Anthropic's announcement.) > After a series of productive conversations with the US government, we're redeploying the model with a new set of classifiers to target and block more cybersecurity tasks. In the near term, some routine tasks like coding and debugging will fall back to Opus 4.8. Edit: the above was from their tweet announcement at https://x.com/Ant…

In the press release, they 'kind of' clarify this:

   > The new classifier also comes at the cost of flagging benign requests more often during routine coding and debugging tasks.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by Schiendelman »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #210
Schiendelman wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a technical product manager, this 1000%. It's just irrelevant how bad code is unless it impacts the business.

> As a technical product manager, this 1000%. It's just irrelevant how bad code is unless it impacts the business. If you are, in fact, "a technical product manager", I would hope you understand that "bad code" is identified as such specifically because it "impacts the business."

That is not how most engineers define bad code.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by InvertedRhodium »

trunnell wrote: post #234
stavarotti wrote: post #55

I just finished reading Incorruptible and a central theme (Anthropic is a case study) is that trust is singularly the most important currency a business has. The past few weeks have done wonders for Anthropic’s marketing but just as much if not more damage to the trust factor. Businesses will continue to use Anthropic because it’s the default and accessible where it matters (AWS, Azure, GCP, Databricks, Snowflake, et…

There is no reason to have less trust in Anthropic. It's not clear they did anything wrong. It's more likely the White House simply tied itself in knots, consistent with the last year and a half of chaos from them.

It's a good reason to not tie your company's success to US based hosted AI though. I've started experimenting with GLM 5.2 and other than the tooling needing a lot more setup once you're there it works pretty well.

I'm hoping that some relatively cost-effective self-hosting solutions come about as a result of Hopper hardware being sold off as they're retired from DC use.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by jitl »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #209
echelon wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speed.

>> What concrete business advantage are you getting from LLMs? > Speed. Speed of what? Speed of understanding what needs to be done? I highly doubt it. Speed of LoC checked into git? Sure, I'll give you that. But one can use any number of tools to generate hundreds of thousands of lines of code. See any build tools which support specifications such as RAML, OpenAPI, CORBA, etc. So I ask again; speed of what?

fixing minor bugs takes one slack message for us now. bugs go down, goodness go up.

fixing more serious regression also easier. connect honeycomb mcp, ask agent to debug while i walk to coffee and get some pistachio rose dates. by time im back with my oat latte ive got a full report on what happened and can send the next slack message to fix.

life is good

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by chatmasta »

bluepeter wrote: post #206
chatmasta wrote: post #17

Mildly surprising they lifted export restrictions for Mythos too. Isn’t that Fable minus the safety layer?

Apparently, you won't be able to use Mythos OR Fable for coding. From their announcement... > routine tasks like coding and debugging will fall back to Opus 4.8.

But it’s available in Claude Code. I’m hoping that’s a typo missing a word or two in the sentence.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Post by bluepeter »

chatmasta wrote: post #239
bluepeter wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apparently, you won't be able to use Mythos OR Fable for coding. From their announcement... > routine tasks like coding and debugging will fall back to Opus 4.8.

But it’s available in Claude Code. I’m hoping that’s a typo missing a word or two in the sentence.

Yeah I think it is after reading the linked blog post.
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