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Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Fable was (is) a major leap forward for my development tasks. The quality of the model compared to Opus 4.8 (when I last used it before the ban hammer) was night and day. Fable single-shotting complex and complete applications was a beautiful thing and I can't wait to get back to developing with it.

All aboard the hype train!

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

For those who haven't been following this closely, who is the missing addressee?

Dario Amodei (Anthropic's CEO) had previously been directly liaising with the government and apparently it wasn't going well.

Any news why?

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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So after this publicity they got, they will release a locked down version of the models, did I get that right?

Sounds more like they are implementing mass surveillance and reporting whatever the US Gov wants for 'security reasons' back to them.

Weren't they already doing that since the beginning? Fable released with a data retention policy. I assumed US government surveillance was the reason for this.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Who knows - this could be the last model we see from Anthropic. Or it just becomes the wild west and we figure it out as we go.

Isn't it the wild west already? On a lark, I asked Claude to compare AI to the wild west a while ago. It raised three points of similarity: - Land-grab economics - Lack of regulation - Changing social and professional attitudes. Whatever it is, it's a wild ride regardless.

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Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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The damage is done. You cannot build a business critical function on top of American SOTA frontier model. Especially not with the current crew in charge. Now whether AI tech is in the same league as say Nuclear tech and therefore by any reasonable standard should be regulated is a different question. We hit the slippery slope on a random day in June 2026 and there is no putting the genie back in the bottle. Any exec…

Nobody cares about this temporary "ban" by the US government. If anything it only increased the mystique of the two models.

I think Europe and Canada are just happy not to be frozen out of AI access completely at this point.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Mildly surprising they lifted export restrictions for Mythos too. Isn’t that Fable minus the safety layer?

Presumably there are different levels of safety. I assumed Fable was a nerfed Mythos, and not just via safety harnesses but actual model degredation.

Anthropic claims the only difference is the draconian bans on cybersecurity and biology queries.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dario Amodei (Anthropic's CEO) had previously been directly liaising with the government and apparently it wasn't going well.

Any news why?

Probably didn't kiss ass as much as most other tech CEOs.

Re: Department of Commerce has lifted export controls on Claude Fable 5 and Mythos 5

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Mildly surprising they lifted export restrictions for Mythos too. Isn’t that Fable minus the safety layer?

Presumably there are different levels of safety. I assumed Fable was a nerfed Mythos, and not just via safety harnesses but actual model degredation.

I don't think this is the case just because of the 'fallback' method they described, where suspicious requests are routed to Opus 4.8. If the model was degraded for certain categories of knowledge, then they'd probably be fine letting the model answer to it. IMO, of course
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