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Re: Amazon seller reveals glimpse of shadow bribery market

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I tend to find ebay less shady than Amazon these days, which is a bit disapointing really.

Ebay is no less shady. Buy something(from China) that takes a long time to arrive, reviewing is disabled. Ebay is junk.

You 60 days from delivery or 90 days from ordering if there is no expected delivery date.

How long is your stuff from China taking to arrive?

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#52

People. Stop making '20 calls' about this sort of thing. If you get ripped off by a corporation, you call once. Take notes. Maybe call twice. At most, three times. Show you made a decent attempt. If you're in a one-party consent state, record it. Then call your lawyer , who will send a demand letter to Amazon legal. If that doesn't get an answer, you go to court. If you can't work something out, you go to court. The…

That costs a lot of effort, time and money, all of which are in short supply nowadays.

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#54

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AliExpress is less shady. If only they had customer service and a decent UI.

I recently dealt with a merchant in Aliexpress who was intentionally selling things well below market price, not to build their storefront reputation, but to collect sales and then ask the customer to cancel. I forced them to cancel the order, which harms their rep. Literally every unmanaged, user content controlled platform devolves into the basest scams, thuggery, and unpleasantness. This is why we can’t have nice…

Recently I attempted to return an item to AliExpress. They gave me a USPS return label with a domestic address that Google Maps showed as some generic office building. This address turned out to be an undeliverable and the package bounced back to me. Support couldn't explain it and said I'd have to pay for a replacement label since I guess they only pay for one return per order. I filed a chargeback instead. It was approved immediately. Surprisingly, AliExpress didn't ban my account or card, and I still shop there instead of equally terrible Amazon or eBay.

Re: Amazon seller reveals glimpse of shadow bribery market

#55

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AliExpress is less shady. If only they had customer service and a decent UI.

I only had good experiences with the customer service. Do they wanna have long conversations? Nope. But they are quick to just give you a refund.

Same experience here. That is the most-correct answer, isn't it?

When the whole thing goes like this, then I really do find that I have no reason to complain:

Customer: "Hey, this widget is broken/never showed up/etc"

Rep: "Refunded"

Re: Amazon seller reveals glimpse of shadow bribery market

#56

People. Stop making '20 calls' about this sort of thing. If you get ripped off by a corporation, you call once. Take notes. Maybe call twice. At most, three times. Show you made a decent attempt. If you're in a one-party consent state, record it. Then call your lawyer , who will send a demand letter to Amazon legal. If that doesn't get an answer, you go to court. If you can't work something out, you go to court. The…

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Re: Amazon seller reveals glimpse of shadow bribery market

#57
post #27

Amazon could easily solve this problem if they wanted to. They just don't want to.

"We're not competitor obsessed, we're customer obsessed. We start with the customer and work backwards." - Jeff Bezos Backwards indeed.

The dropshippers are the customers of Amazon’s platform, in a way…

Re: Amazon seller reveals glimpse of shadow bribery market

#58
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I think Amazon is catching on. I had this happen last week, and after the 2 days late, Amazon sent an automated apology with the option to cancel if it didn't show up after the third day.

I'm not sure that's "catching on". One would think that if they can't reliably offer a service, they shouldn't be offering it in the first place.

At what percentage 'failure' rate (that is can't be shipped in 2 days) should they cancel 2 day shipping?

Re: Amazon seller reveals glimpse of shadow bribery market

#59

People. Stop making '20 calls' about this sort of thing. If you get ripped off by a corporation, you call once. Take notes. Maybe call twice. At most, three times. Show you made a decent attempt. If you're in a one-party consent state, record it. Then call your lawyer , who will send a demand letter to Amazon legal. If that doesn't get an answer, you go to court. If you can't work something out, you go to court. The…

That costs a lot of effort, time and money, all of which are in short supply nowadays.

The seller in the article read doing $500k/mo.

Wasting 2 months not getting any sales is far more costly than spending a few grand on a lawyer.

Re: Amazon seller reveals glimpse of shadow bribery market

#60

I tend to find ebay less shady than Amazon these days, which is a bit disapointing really.

I have ordered items on eBay just for the seller to order it on Amazon and send it to me that way. Just happened to me this week with club bells/Indian clubs.

Haha, I ordered my car wing mirror cowl and it arrived in a box with an Amazon gift receipt. I suppose the eBay fellow was solving a discovery problem for me for a cut. Good for him.
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