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Waveloop: What Fable left me

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Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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Pretty sure the author is aware. I think the interesting part is that the frequency is logarithmic and one rotation = 2x. This means you can make musical observations about chord qualities from the plot. That's not generally true for FFT plots.

You are right, it is cool idea in general. But, idk if we are seeing the same thing, in practice it ends up being kinda mushy looking right? In part, I think, because like its not rooted by a given root note, so at best we end up seeing constantly rotating, slightly different clock arrangements. Even in ideal conditions, anything like, e.g., Cmaj7 to Em is going to look almost the same, which feels off given the perc…

Yes, it doesn't seem like it actually works super well. Love the idea though. I would probably pay money for a thing that did this accurately.

Personally, I think it's a feature that Em looks substantially similar to CM7. If this was all working fully as intended, I suppose you might get a clue from the darker-colored bass note.

A bass player probably has a different perspective, but as a keyboard player, it's pretty much always fine to play an Em over a CM7. It's just a "voicing choice".

Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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Kinda interesting how its just like a FFT chart in a circle but perhaps the author is not aware that is the case. Would be curious to know what things were "implmentation details" for the fancy AI and what wasn't. I could be wrong but milkdrop already would do light FFT analysis for effects right?

I'm also curious about the implementation details, the result is visually beautiful, but the code could be interesting too, at least as a 'Fable hystorical artifact'. Is it visible on github?

Hey! Author here. It's a single file, so you can just view source at https://saltblock.neynt.ca/waveloop.html

Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm also curious about the implementation details, the result is visually beautiful, but the code could be interesting too, at least as a 'Fable hystorical artifact'. Is it visible on github?

Hey! Author here. It's a single file, so you can just view source at https://saltblock.neynt.ca/waveloop.html

cool, yeah all comments are preserved, i'll read the source. thanks!

Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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Thought this might be about the video game series, and even after seeing "Fable 5" my first reaction was "wow, up to 5 already?". It looks like they made it up to Fable III before rebooting the series with a 4th game (well, it's not out yet), so there is no Fable 5 yet.

TFA seems to be about some AI thing. Crazy how many words are actually just AI things now. Learning, reinforcement, language, model...

Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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I was not expecting the part where Fable produces a passable 3Blue1Brown-style explainer video of the algorithms it just implemented that sounds like it's narrated by a character from Dora the Explorer. What a strange era we now live in.

I actually had no idea Fable is able to generate videos from scratch like that. I guess it shouldn’t surprise me. But it never occurred to me.

Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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>The writing is also literary. It draws an analogy between the 12 musical pitch classes and the 12 markings on a clock. Noise lingers. Material surges off the rim. I absolutely hate this revolting writing style by LLMs

It’s like an angsty book written by a teenager with only a middle-school level understanding of the world: throwing a few completely random words in there to sound smart.

Hard to believe that something that writes so terribly is so good at mathematics, given that writing non-slop must be at least some part formulaic.

Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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Im building some music playback software and am currently struggling with the implementation of a spectrum analyzer to visualize the music. This is incredible stuff and I learned a lot. Well done sir. Ps, also mourning the loss of Fable! It sorted out a 3 month bug hunt odyssey in 3 days. For a somewhat novel problem in a pretty niche area (DSD DoP audio crackle problems during certain playback edge cases).

Fable was quite relentless, it was fun watching it work. I described my lisp interpreter project's short term plans and long term roadmap, Fable thought for like 20 minutes then just told me it was all "inevitable" and started working on the stuff. Ever since then I started to picture Fable as some kind of Terminator. Left me that code and a massive code review that unfortunately didn't contain any of the I/O and mem…

>I get a little sad when I read it. Not a US citizen so I'm not sure I'll ever get to use a state of the art model again.

...or tomorrow:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48740771

Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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That was my experience with Fable as well. Pulled my extremely complex project that I could squint and see was possible, but actually put mathematical concreteness to things in a way I could only intuit. On the flip side, visualizers have always fascinated me. I love this one, but one build off I've always wanted to see: analyze the entire file a priori, and then generate the visuals. Sort of like a normalization pas…

The video game Audiosurf[1] did this, as it has to generate the game track ahead of time so that it would be playable!

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Audiosurf

Re: Waveloop: What Fable left me

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I'm also curious about the implementation details, the result is visually beautiful, but the code could be interesting too, at least as a 'Fable hystorical artifact'. Is it visible on github?

Hey! Author here. It's a single file, so you can just view source at https://saltblock.neynt.ca/waveloop.html

yes fable left you a gift. i wish you can continue to further develop the project when things return to normal, if they ever will. or at least branch and use an alternative model.

as fable came out, the first thing i did was asking it to analyze some of my projects and ideas and write plans and suggestions, more than implementations. nothing incredibly revolutionary came out but i still see these as its 'last will'.

i'm sure some of you here have a few fable's relics/stories that you consider special precisely because of its abrupt demise.

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