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That's not true. Temperature above 30C are the norm in summer in Southern Europe (which means quite higher in the Sun and in a heat trap location). Now, yes 40C isn't. But I am unconvinced that AC manufacturers have different "sizing"... An AC unit is for hot places and the outdoor unit may be in a very hot spots with ambient easily above 40C. Edit: Yes, AC systems for a whole building are different but still the sys…
Brussels is however not in Southern Europe By sizing I simply mean the number and capacity of roof units. Cooling an office building down by 8C is a lot easier than cooling it by 18C. I doubt half the roof units are shut down. Maybe some are, but most will have their output redirected to cooling the top half of the building
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It was designed for historical, pre-climate-change weather. (Or at least when those were in the know about climate change thought we'd solve it.)
There's probably a "Belgian joke" to be made if their AC is only designed to work when it isn't hot...
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If it's every summer, how is it unnatural? If it's poor planning how is it every summer? There's poor planning and then there's ... what, forgetting that summer happens? It sounds to me like somebody sat down and penciled in some numbers and decided that "it makes less money to let it break?" which seems pretty weird when you consider second-order stuff (but it's not like people tend to do that anyway)
Come on, you expect me to believe you honestly have no contextual knowledge about the changing climate? No, I think you are opting for disguising your full on climate change denial under a tattered veil of feigned ignorance.
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> unnaturally high temperatures > poor planning. > very common in UK supermarkets every summer. What?
Global warming keeps making the temperature unnaturaly high, don't tell me you didn't hear about it.
https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/be/brussels/EBB... shows lately it was 97˚ in Brussels. In 2005 it was 93˚ around the same time.
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...... what? This isn't your home with open stairwells and loose venting doorjams. This is a thirteen story office building with elevators and badged access easements.
My dorm room was on the ninth floor of a nine floor building. I assure you, heat passes through elevator shafts and floors just fine, and office buildings aren't usually built like a BSL-4 laboratory. If anything, they're typically less insulated than a regular old house.
Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on
#136Just adding some context on the AC and the building as well which was explained by journalist David Carretta (who follows EU politics, written in Italian) here https://x.com/davcarretta/status/2071592636260012175 . To summarise, AC was turned off floor by floor, with the switch off starting from 16:00 over a Friday, a time when most administrative personnel is getting off work for the weekend. The entire building had…
>Staff working in the building told Euractiv that the air conditioning failure did not affect the floors above level 8, where Ursula von der Leyen, her European commissioners and their cabinets are based.
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> but if you get a really cold spell and it drops to -35C Temperatures near 40C have been recorded in Paris dozens of times since the early 2000s. I don't think the winter temperature in Paris has ever dropped much below -20C, let alone -35C. So this isn't a very fair analogy.
What does temperature in Paris have to do with Brussels?
Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on
#138> Due to extreme weather conditions, forced shut down of air cooling system from floor 1 to 7 for the rest of the day It's like satire. What is AC for if not extreme heat?
Historically temperatures above 30C (86F) were rare in Europe, so thats what many ACs are sized for. Now they face 40C (104F), and many AC installations can't keep up Shutting down AC on floors 1 to 7 likely allows them to get better performance on floors 8 to 13
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#139> The heat wave has prompted a renewed discussion about the lack of air-conditioning systems in homes and offices across much of Europe Discussion, common sense requires discussion. All you need to know about them in one sentence.
there is significant resistance to air conditioning in Europe at many levels (all of which are invalid or solvable): * "not technically feasible" - people talk about old buildings with oddly shaped windows * "can't afford it" - as you see here. people talk about the units themselves and the electricity bills * "our infrastructure can't handle it" - this has to do with things like grids overheating, failing * "our inf…
And yes it does seem to get singled out as bad for global warming, which is odd as people in the UK most often use gas to heat their houses, where AC is very efficient and can use electricity from whatever source. It also works as very energy-efficient heating in winter.
Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on
#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was designed for historical, pre-climate-change weather. (Or at least when those were in the know about climate change thought we'd solve it.)
There's probably a "Belgian joke" to be made if their AC is only designed to work when it isn't hot...