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EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Post by hparadiz »

6510 wrote: post #119
hparadiz wrote: post #113

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That's cause you got the cheapest one and think all of them are like that. They come in different power levels and you can in fact find ones that are quiet.

People don't know which to buy. I got a really big one that doesn't make a lot of noise. I think on dehumidify it can suck 1.5 liters per hour out of the room. I think this because with 98% humidity the 0.5 liter tank is full in <20 minutes. The tank isn't removable, it has a lid 3 cm above the floor. Just low enough that one cant leave a large enough container under it.

Some of them use the waste heat to evaporate any accumulated water and have it come out of the heat exhaust as slightly humid air. The one I got when I lived in Hawaii had a hole where water would drip out of and you could attach a hose to it.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Post by Yossarrian22 »

rapsey wrote: post #109
wnevets wrote: post #66

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There is something very wrong in the EU if installing a life saving window air conditioner requires a permit or signed approval from every person in the building.

They literally built a new hospital in germany without AC. 28C/82F degrees in surgery.

How? I thought hospital AC had the dual role of air filtration to reduce spread of bacteria and viruses

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Post by clates »

ceejayoz wrote: post #14
wongarsu wrote: post #10

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Based on the little information provided the AC can't keep up. So they cut off the lower half of the building to provide better cooling to the other half

Which, as heat rises, is probably reasonable.

...... what?

This isn't your home with open stairwells and loose venting doorjams. This is a thirteen story office building with elevators and badged access easements.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Post by rappatic »

gambiting wrote: post #17
rappatic wrote: post #3

> Due to extreme weather conditions, forced shut down of air cooling system from floor 1 to 7 for the rest of the day It's like satire. What is AC for if not extreme heat?

Normal day to day cooling, I mean, obviously? Like if you have a system designed to operate in 25-30C(normal summer in most of Europe) but then you have a spike of temperatures going to 40C for a few days in a row, it shouldn't really be a surprise the system doesn't work in conditions it wasn't designed for? The compressor overheats and shuts down, especially if it wasn't installed in the shade. Just like heat pumps…

> but if you get a really cold spell and it drops to -35C

Temperatures near 40C have been recorded in Paris dozens of times since the early 2000s. I don't think the winter temperature in Paris has ever dropped much below -20C, let alone -35C. So this isn't a very fair analogy.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Post by ceejayoz »

clates wrote: post #123
ceejayoz wrote: post #14

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Which, as heat rises, is probably reasonable.

...... what? This isn't your home with open stairwells and loose venting doorjams. This is a thirteen story office building with elevators and badged access easements.

My dorm room was on the ninth floor of a nine floor building.

I assure you, heat passes through elevator shafts and floors just fine, and office buildings aren't usually built like a BSL-4 laboratory. If anything, they're typically less insulated than a regular old house.

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Post by plorkyeran »

6510 wrote: post #115
hparadiz wrote: post #52

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People on here will literally write walls of text over the most mundane nonsense. Get a free standing unit like this: https://i.imgur.com/giewYeK.png Shove the plastic tube outlet out of a window. End of installation. You're welcome. Seriously why is this so difficult and what is this learned helplessness? You would rather be miserable than do literally anything?

If the bottom of the window is 80cm or less from the floor you need safety glass. Therefore most windows are much further from the floor than that tube can reach. We also have very few sliding windows that allow such neat finish. A lot open at the top. Many turn left or right and are half the size of a door (because there is no AC) Running a crappy tiny portable single hose AC with the window open doesn't do much. Ex…

The tube for my portable AC unit would quite easily reach the ~250cm to the tops of my windows and it is not unusually long. I'm not sure what makes you think that would be a problem.

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Post by cineticdaffodil »

6510 wrote: post #105
cineticdaffodil wrote: post #44

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It would burn less, if not all these abstract architects would sit in old art nouveau buildings near a park, with the AC tastefully hidden in the backyard - and there they sit on the MAC, shitting out these etched waver under the ERM buildings and cities for the rest of us to be miserable in.

It once struck me that so called school chairs are actually far more fascinating than one would think. To me, they are the ultimate symbol of something one would never buy to use yourself. https://www.google.com/search?num=10&sa=X&sca_esv=9e14c54052... Look at those torture devices! They don't even look like chairs.

Oh, but that is what came from the Bauhaus- because back then wood crafted furniture was ridiculous expensive- and these are just the cheapest thing anyone can afford. Bend pipes and one wooden back plate steambend. Clank it out of a factory for 5 $ and everyone be seated.

That is where the hatred for ornamentation originated from- labour was expensive, craftsmen where rare, ornamentation was luxury and a display of wealth disparity. Today everyone could have all the ornamentation he or she wanted. Have your whole insta-history as 3d relief 3d printed as gypsum on your house facade.

But thats still mor expensive then ornamentation. Capitalism loves ugly and hates its customers.

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Post by frollogaston »

lumrn wrote: post #50

Just adding some context on the AC and the building as well which was explained by journalist David Carretta (who follows EU politics, written in Italian) here https://x.com/davcarretta/status/2071592636260012175 . To summarise, AC was turned off floor by floor, with the switch off starting from 16:00 over a Friday, a time when most administrative personnel is getting off work for the weekend. The entire building had…

I stopped reading that Twitter the post the moment it said "so the deniers (or former ones) are now building a new campaign" which was the second sentence. But only after I had already dismissed the Politico article as ragebait.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Post by gambiting »

rappatic wrote: post #124
gambiting wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Normal day to day cooling, I mean, obviously? Like if you have a system designed to operate in 25-30C(normal summer in most of Europe) but then you have a spike of temperatures going to 40C for a few days in a row, it shouldn't really be a surprise the system doesn't work in conditions it wasn't designed for? The compressor overheats and shuts down, especially if it wasn't installed in the shade. Just like heat pumps…

> but if you get a really cold spell and it drops to -35C Temperatures near 40C have been recorded in Paris dozens of times since the early 2000s. I don't think the winter temperature in Paris has ever dropped much below -20C, let alone -35C. So this isn't a very fair analogy.

What does temperature in Paris have to do with Brussels?

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Post by frollogaston »

zuzululu wrote: post #71

What really appalls me is that they have now started to blame Americans for the heatwave that the hot air from AC units are to blame and doubling down on their insistence that AC are harmful to the climate and telling people to not use AC. I really think that this is the straw that breaks the camel's back moment for EU. Right now people are learning that EU = unbearable heat and other things.

Are you talking about the Paris deputy mayor, or did someone else also do this?
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