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Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by vintermann »

dgacmu wrote: post #52
torginus wrote: post #17

The first example of generating home interiors fills me with indescribable hatred. Recently real estate agents have taken to running every dilapidated unsellable apartment through these AI filters, and you have to scroll through a dozen of these Ikea-chic images of what the apartment presumably could look like, before you are allowed to see the horrors they are trying to peddle at insane prices.

Accepting 100% that it should be in some way deemed unacceptable (socially or legally) to fake what an apartment actually looks like, I did find using an image model really helpful in making design choices for my bathroom remodel. Mostly about whether to tile certain things where we couldn't quite visualize ourselves what the effect on the entire space would be.

It should be the same as rule #1 of machine translation: never machine translate something for your recipient unless they ask for it. They may not need it. If they do need it, they almost certainly know where to find machine translation. A bad translation with no original is worse than nothing, because you often end up having to mentally backtranslate a broken version of your native language in order to understand what they were trying to say.

Likewise, if I want to see AI renders of what the apartment may one day maybe look like - I can ask for it. Or make the render myself with my tool of choice. But I'll need to know what it actually looks like to do that.

Sadly Google in particular don't obey rule #1 even for machine translation, so it's going to be an uphill battle to get companies to understand.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by revolvingthrow »

minimaxir wrote: post #11
algoth1 wrote: post #2

They didnt include chatgpt in the comparison chart. That tells a lot

That is fair to point out. For those who don't know, ChatGPT Image 2 has an absurd ELO of 1387; compared to the #2 model at 1273, it's over 100 points higher ( https://arena.ai/leaderboard/text-to-image ). The tradeoff is latency, and ChatGPT Image 2 at High is...slow (~2 minutes at 1024x1024). In both cases it would have skewed the charts here to uselessness. I want to do a writeup on ChatGPT Image 2 but at this poi…

While I have no experience with it personally (no interest in image gen) my aunt was raving about current chatgpt image model for "restoring" / working with old photos - sharpening, changing some small details like ill-fitting background. It takes her a bunch of prompting but eventually she gets things just right. In comparison, current gemini output (supposedly) tends to be subtly off, details aren’t quite right, proportions are subtly changed etc.

This is purely about generating images with people in them, I don’t think she’s doing any logic puzzles with gotchas and specific alignments of differently colored blocks and whatnot

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by benjiro29 »

torginus wrote: post #17

The first example of generating home interiors fills me with indescribable hatred. Recently real estate agents have taken to running every dilapidated unsellable apartment through these AI filters, and you have to scroll through a dozen of these Ikea-chic images of what the apartment presumably could look like, before you are allowed to see the horrors they are trying to peddle at insane prices.

I think it makes houses/apartment less likely to sell. When you see the idealized version, and then the reality, the impact is much bigger then just showing reality.

Unless people prove me wrong, and they really fall for that...

Its like we used to be flooded with fisheye lens pictures of homes, that made the rooms way bigger then reality. I noticed that this trend (on the immo that i follow for years) has heavily reduced. Because nothing beats a sale, as people seeing something looking spacious on pictures and then in person seen its way more small/cramped/compact.

I love that new trend of 3D home viewing... It saves you so much time, and saves time for the immo people, filters out a lot of people with less interest.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by iLemming »

iAMkenough wrote: post #66
Ajedi32 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't that fall under existing false advertising laws, if you're putting fake/altered images in the listing?

Trump Mobile did the same with the false advertising of their phone, and that’s apparently okay.

> that’s apparently okay

Everything is "okay" with Trump. This social experiment got out of hand long ago. I mean come on, if we (as a society) allowed and okayed pedophilic tendencies, why do we keep looking for the lowest point on the bar? I'm pretty sure, Trump can consume human flesh on live TV and we'd just shrug it off and forget that even happened two weeks later.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by IAmGraydon »

torginus wrote: post #17

The first example of generating home interiors fills me with indescribable hatred. Recently real estate agents have taken to running every dilapidated unsellable apartment through these AI filters, and you have to scroll through a dozen of these Ikea-chic images of what the apartment presumably could look like, before you are allowed to see the horrors they are trying to peddle at insane prices.

That's actually illegal in most states.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by thewebguyd »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #60
Ajedi32 wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't that fall under existing false advertising laws, if you're putting fake/altered images in the listing?

It should, I would assume. But for some reason, it seems nobody is enforcing consumer protections like they used to. Pretty soon they'll take the stickers off mowers warning people to not put their hand under it while it's running. The world isn't in a good place...

> it seems nobody is enforcing consumer protections like they used to

I'll preface this by saying that I don't agree with how things are working currently. But, the way the existing protections get enforced is by an individual or group of individuals filing lawsuits.

Our regulatory agencies have either been completely gutted by DOGE, or just no longer have an appetite to do any kind of proactive enforcement, so its now up to the victims who have been wronged to bring the violation to the attention of the courts/regulatory bodies responsible for enforcement.

Part of me feels like this is intentional and by design, because bringing suit is an expensive and time consuming process and naturally locks out the people harmed the most by these violations. Its the same method by which slumlords/bad landlords get away with so many blatant violations of the various landlord/tenant laws; their tenants can't afford the lawsuits and the lawyers to protect themselves.

The legal system needs to be made much more accessible, but I'm not sure how that happens or what that looks like.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by thewebguyd »

benjiro29 wrote: post #74
torginus wrote: post #17

The first example of generating home interiors fills me with indescribable hatred. Recently real estate agents have taken to running every dilapidated unsellable apartment through these AI filters, and you have to scroll through a dozen of these Ikea-chic images of what the apartment presumably could look like, before you are allowed to see the horrors they are trying to peddle at insane prices.

I think it makes houses/apartment less likely to sell. When you see the idealized version, and then the reality, the impact is much bigger then just showing reality. Unless people prove me wrong, and they really fall for that... Its like we used to be flooded with fisheye lens pictures of homes, that made the rooms way bigger then reality. I noticed that this trend (on the immo that i follow for years) has heavily re…

When you do get the privilege of seeing the unit in person, yeah. This is obviously the case for most home sales.

But there are plenty of rental markets where you can be forced to rent without seeing that exact unit first. Common in big complexes, where you might get shown a "similar unit" or in markets where rental vacancy is so low that if you don't apply & sign within hours, you aren't getting that apartment because there's 20+ potential tenants for every rare vacancy. The current renal home I live in I rented without seeing it in person first because it was the only vacancy at the time, and in that market you must be first to sign the lease or you lose.

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by pkaye »

psygn89 wrote: post #19
torginus wrote: post #17

The first example of generating home interiors fills me with indescribable hatred. Recently real estate agents have taken to running every dilapidated unsellable apartment through these AI filters, and you have to scroll through a dozen of these Ikea-chic images of what the apartment presumably could look like, before you are allowed to see the horrors they are trying to peddle at insane prices.

I think that should be illegal and misrepresenting. Lots of gray area with AI usage.

California recently added new laws regarding AI in real estate. I think lighting corrections and cropping is allowed but other digitally altered images should include a link to the original.

https://lewisbrisbois.com/insights/clientalerts/new-californ...

https://dre.ca.gov/Licensees/Advisories/Advisory_2026_03_17_...

Re: Nano Banana 2 Lite

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Post by system2 »

I've been testing for the last 2 hours and compared to GPT Image 2. The pricing for 1K resolution it costs $0.0342, takes 8 seconds (not 3 sec). Compared to the GPT Image 2 api ($0.0414 for the same res, responding in 35-45 seconds) I am pleased with its quality and pricing. The texts come garbled, it adds them to every image generated without the prompt, but negative prompts do work well to remove those.

It tends to generate depressing-looking lighting, but if instructed, it overcomes it. Up close, faces also look pretty decent. I can still tell it is AI-generated, but to an untrained eye, it is nearly impossible to distinguish, especially for regular blog posts and ads.

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