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The cost per task chart is telling me that I should _never_ use Sonnet 5 above medium effort level - Opus always performs better for a given cost. So I guess the takeaway is that if Sonnet 5 medium isn't good enough for you, switch models, not effort levels.
I'd love if they would include speed (though I know there are difficulties involved). At this point the quality of Opus 4.8 is no longer my limiting factor, it's the speed, so a faster model would be great.
interesting how much worse the sentiment around Anthropic is getting
Seems like a combination of multiple factors: "They took my shit away!" -- 3-day Fable 5 addicts (me) "How dare they tell Trump no?" -- US nationalist / "my country right or wrong" types "Great to see a closed source company fail!" -- open source boosters "Great to see an American company fail!" -- anti-US, and/or pro-China folks "Great to see a successful company fail!" -- anti-capitalists and/or sour-grapes crab bu…
I don't agree with your framing that all negativity is from crazies
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What? If you're comparing their models in the same size class, Sonnet 5 is Pareto-optimal over Sonnet 4.6.
I think they mean per dollar in the perf/$charts, not per marketing class. I.e. the new model is a complete Pareto failure in said perf/$ charts with the sole exception of Sonnet 5 low, which is dumb enough to not have comparison at all. Opus 4.8 delivers a better outcome per dollar, regardless what the underlying size of the models is. I'd generously assume this is something about the specific category of agentic ta…
Agentic search is a different story, but even there it still dominates 4.6 (as in, for everything Sonnet 4.6 can do, Sonnet 5 can do it as well or better at the same or lower cost).
Yes, Opus 4.8 dominates Sonnet 5 over its entire range in both categories, but Opus's lower range is limited and there is a valid regime on the lower end where Sonnet 5 use makes economic sense. This is not the case for Sonnet 4.6 where Opus 4.8 dominates it completely on both charts.
Edit -- reading your response closer I think we're saying the same things, maybe just disagreeing on whether that lower end is valuable or not.
Not looking great for an upcoming IPO
You’re right, it’s looking stellar. Well beyond great. Real, and unprecedented, revenue growth will do that for a company.
Bro that is financial engineering, not real revenue growth. They engineered the switch to usage based pricing and a price hike timed the quarter before they wanted to go public, long enough to juice their numbers but not long enough for them not to be able to manage backlash and have to walk things back. Then they tried to extrapolate that manufactured bump to make it look like they have record shattering revenue growth.
Is there any reason to use Sonnet instead of GLM?
The cost per task chart is telling me that I should _never_ use Sonnet 5 above medium effort level - Opus always performs better for a given cost. So I guess the takeaway is that if Sonnet 5 medium isn't good enough for you, switch models, not effort levels.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Seems like a combination of multiple factors: "They took my shit away!" -- 3-day Fable 5 addicts (me) "How dare they tell Trump no?" -- US nationalist / "my country right or wrong" types "Great to see a closed source company fail!" -- open source boosters "Great to see an American company fail!" -- anti-US, and/or pro-China folks "Great to see a successful company fail!" -- anti-capitalists and/or sour-grapes crab bu…
It seems to be more them losing goodwill combined with their marketing. I don't agree with your framing that all negativity is from crazies
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Okay I don’t care about “eventually”, I want Fable now.
Have you considered getting better at coding so you can build stuff yourself instead of waiting for models you might not be able to get access to anymore?