I'm unsure if this is "requirements on how to implement deep packet inspection, if you choose to do so" vs "requirements to perform deep packet inspection."
Can anyone give context?
ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection Recommendation
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#22Good luck with that. What they have just "approved" is the IP-equivalent of opening every single piece of mail. That is, wiretapping.
They won't need luck, they have the rubber stamps of "National Security" and "We Promise We'll Only Use It For Bad Guys". I imagine that someone somewhere could find a way to apply the interstate commerce clause to let the US gov do what it wants there, too.
They've already been effectively wiretapping and storing a lot, if you believe some of the recent whistleblowers, and so far there's been no effective pushback.
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#23IPSec to the rescue?
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#24Can someone explain the problems with the ITU creating specifications? I thought I understood it, but all the recent excitement and anti-ITU sentiment tells me I must be missing something. How is what the ITU does different from any standards body? They can propose standards for DPI, censoring, etc., but that won't magically make Level3 or Comcast or any particular ISP start playing with my packets. What am I missing…
They're re-negotiating the ITRs, which are the provisions in the ITU's underlying treaty.
Some general information (PDF): https://www.cdt.org/files/file/Global%20Internet%20Governanc...
On the DPI issue: https://www.cdt.org/blogs/cdt/2811adoption-traffic-sniffing-...
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#26I think it is a good time to start incorporating DJB's NaCl into ... everything. And also run HTTP Everywhere in the meantime. And set up opportunistic IPSEC. Sad day. On a related note, I suggest we stop calling the heads of state and bureaucratic organizations like the UN "Leaders" and starting referring to them by their real self appointed role, "Rulers". Language shapes perception, and we've been using the wrong…
> Language shapes perception
Isn't this an argument to to continue using the term "leaders"? Surely calling them "rulers" would, under your logic, push them further towards "rulership"?
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#27The hardest thing for me to understand is how every telco can complain of congestion, but they're perfectly willing to introduce unnecessary overhead for DPI. This is not a good day, not a good day at all.
How is DPI related to needing more bandwidth needed per base station or residential area?
I think he is referring to the fact that significant CPU resources are required for DPI and if the DPI can't keep up, things will slow down.
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#28I'm unsure if this is "requirements on how to implement deep packet inspection, if you choose to do so" vs "requirements to perform deep packet inspection." Can anyone give context?
Context is that Google says it impacts profit^W^W^W it's evil, so it must be. Because hey, standardizing what every government is doing already must be evil.
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#29The hardest thing for me to understand is how every telco can complain of congestion, but they're perfectly willing to introduce unnecessary overhead for DPI. This is not a good day, not a good day at all.
How is DPI related to needing more bandwidth needed per base station or residential area?
Bandwidth is the measure of data over time. DPI is a process which inspects each piece of data and that takes time. Therefore, the bandwidth will decrease.
Re: ITU Approves Deep Packet Inspection Recommendation
#30The hardest thing for me to understand is how every telco can complain of congestion, but they're perfectly willing to introduce unnecessary overhead for DPI. This is not a good day, not a good day at all.
How is DPI related to needing more bandwidth needed per base station or residential area?
Other restrictions besides bandwidth exist. For example, DPI requires more CPU and memory, which are some of the major constraints of networking equipment, especially when the equipment resides at the edge (borders) of a Tier 1 ISP.