But ... they have a "Follow us on BlueSky" link that goes to bsky.app not esky.something?
On atproto your PDS and the appview you use are not linked. Your data is stored on your PDS and available to any app that handled Bluesky records.
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Censored" I mean "flagged", sure. In practice, they're all hidden from the casual user. But really, I'm interested on why ATProto was touted as revolutionary while in practice it powers a standalone heavily politically biased social network where moderators are extremely active flagging everything that's on the right. In that respect, Mastodon is more "revolutionary" - you handle your instance, you provide your mode…
@phillipcarter: of course it's users (and mods) doing that, but in the end , if you open bsky today you see a single, huge, left-biased social media. If you look at Mastodon, you see at a lot left-leaning trans-and-furry-friendly instances, true, but you also see a bunch of right wing instances plus Gab. What happens with bsky today (single instance, echo chambered) is simply something I don't expect from a "distribu…
"Why is that?"
Elon Musk took over Twitter and made it rabidly right-wing. As a result, a lot of left-wing people went to Blue Sky.
Social networks are just groups of people: if such a network starts with a core group that leans heavily on a particular end of the political spectrum, the network will also (even with zero bias from the network itself) lean that way.
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Bluesky is also where you had people cheering for the assassination of federal agents and hosting CSAM material ? When I hear someone uses bluesky a lot, I cant help but feel suspicious of them
Hosting CSAM material? What? I've never seen CSAM on Bluesky, but I have seen it generated by Grok on Twitter.
I've seen plenty of people cheer for murder on Twitter as well, both from the left and right. Cheering for the killing of a protester is no better than cheering for the killing of a federal agent.
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#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
I wasn't banned from the whole site but I definitely was perma-banned from the local subreddit. That's how reddit works. Moderators get to moderate as they see fit, and short of some egregious terms of service violations, reddit admins won't interfere.
I was also quickly banned from participating in my local sub. It is a shame that the local subs are the ones that are the most over moderated- they are effectively isolating those in the community that don't have an "acceptable" viewpoint on any given topic
> the local subs are the ones that are the most over moderated
The local subs are by nature ghost towns, and the first people to get them rolling will often establish some weird culture that will never be uprooted.
I disagree, though. The most over-moderated are any having to do with any product or service (especially particular websites or pieces of hardware or software), liberal-left subs, or subs related to any industries that are dominated by particular companies. This happens because companies make sure to control the modding of (what they consider) their own subs.
In the case of liberal-left subs, the Democratic Party has prioritized controlling all political discussion amongst the people whose votes it feels entitled to post-2016, when H. Clinton's campaign press released that it was assigning a budget of millions to "Correct the Record" anonymously online. In that year, the party apparatus was indistinguishable from Clinton's campaign organization, and those people continue to do the same thing except the budgets have gone way up. This was also when the Democrats and the CIA/FBI started to become mutual admiration societies (which I think has worn out to a certain extent after Gaza and ICE) but you can see how the personnel and tactics diffused over the past decade until their effects became overwhelming today.
Might be better to say that the local subs are the most organically over-moderated, but even then sometimes that first little clique that gets them rolling are actually connected in their local area, and engaging in the same kind of thoughtful, collaborative, profit-motivated manipulation as above.
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#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Large decentralized infrastructure like the internet, DNS, email, and the web was largely built by VC-backed companies. The poor need the rich to start a company as banks are prevented (by the rich) from lending to them. The rich like VC as it's a tax write-off, they invest in VCs and get even more richer. Most startups fail, the VC's investors get any leftovers and poor founder walks off empty. > What about when th…
> The poor need the rich to start a company as banks are prevented (by the rich) from lending to them. no. the banks hold the poor's money, and it needs to do so without risk because the poor need their money. lending money to start companies that are completly unsecured is too risky for banks, they lend money to buy houses which is secured debt.
Banks lend against homes as the state guarantees the housing market is too big to fail and will bail them out.
Banks often lend at low LTV ratios because the prices are inflated so people on normal salaries can't actually afford to put down a large deposit, which means a slight drop puts them into negative equity but the banks are not concerned as they are protected.
If the state chose to underwrite startups in the same way...
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#97Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're proposing a fiction that there is functionally any difference. Migrating a subreddit is a large community effort and rarely if ever happens over just one ban. If you're banned from a subreddit for X, which famously happens for often the thinnest of reasonings, you're effectively out of the online community around X. For some subreddits this even has real-world implications. You don't have to be the least bit s…
Happened to me, the mod did not like the fact that I had engaged with a sub that he does not politically agree on, It was a university centric sub that I got banned from. Could never take that site seriously, ever.
I've seen this in just about every online space for 40 years now, but it is particularly bad there. I was deeply involved in several subreddits up until about '09-'10 and it slowly dawned on me just how far off the reservation the average mod was. I didn't even have any moderation issues personally, just from seeing it happen to others and the way they would approach rules and their day-to-day.
I quit the site entirely and have not looked back, but as an outsider everything I still hear about reddit moderation doesn't make my impression any more favorable. Quite the opposite.
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#98I'm left wondering if maybe all the years I spend tinkering with Linux servers and self-hosted infrastructure are just about to pay off big time now that there is a massive move for governments and institutions to take control of their infrastructure... You still pretty much need a human to spin and maintain infrastructure, wire things securely, and monitor... Now I just need to wait until someone rebrands sysop into…
SDS, Sovereign Data Specialist ;)
> Sovereign Data Specialist
It immediately makes me think of sovereign citizens and I get twitchy.
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#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's dreadfuly simple - Bluesky users can choose what content they want to see - including selecting feeds, algorithms, moderation services etc. This situation is intolerable to people who believe that their right-wing views must be forcefully shoved down users' feeds, because not liking and not wanting to see their shitty content is considered an attack on freedom of speech.
That's not true though. If many people or the mods flag a post, other people cannot see it without clicking - it's covered by a banner. I have a new user on bsky, I never touched any configuration knob and by default I can't see certain posts. Someone decided for me. If I were truly able to decide what I see I would see every single post as a new user. Then I would have the optuon to opt in to lists, banning / hiding…
Didn’t you just say you can click to see it? So you can see it.
It’s hardly any different than those placards they used to put over the swimsuit magazines in the checkout line at the grocery store. No one was stopping you from buying it and seeing all the titties you wanted.
Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky
#100I'm left wondering if maybe all the years I spend tinkering with Linux servers and self-hosted infrastructure are just about to pay off big time now that there is a massive move for governments and institutions to take control of their infrastructure... You still pretty much need a human to spin and maintain infrastructure, wire things securely, and monitor... Now I just need to wait until someone rebrands sysop into…
Why not - eventually it will be The Year Of The Linux Desktop.