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Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by zenoprax »

zanecodes wrote: post #68
gonzalohm wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the point of sleeping your computer? If you are not using it then it's better to just turn it off

So I don't have to spend 10-15 minutes saving all my open files (including the scratchpad ones I haven't named) and then later reopening all my applications, recreating all of my tmux windows and panes, setting up my vim splits and tabs again, and starting all of my stopped Docker containers?

I have a feeling someone is going to jump in with a "solution" to each of these forgetting that lots of work is ephemeral/transient and undeserving of even the slightest bit of automation or pre-configuration.

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by dwb »

gonzalohm wrote: post #46
kps wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I believe this is because of how Mac is designed Yes, that they actually got sleep working properly.

What's the point of sleeping your computer? If you are not using it then it's better to just turn it off

The same reason that you don't do a full shutdown every time you walk away from your computer. I don't really believe that you don't understand this.

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by dwb »

gonzalohm wrote: post #4

I don't have any data to prove it but I think Mac users don't bother "cleaning up" after they are done with their computers. I think windows and Linux users usually shut down their laptops when they are done. I believe this is because of how Mac is designed, nothing really closes. You close an app and it's just "minimized". Same behavior as with the lid, you close the lid and it suspends. If I recall correctly, at so…

That is not true, when you close apps on macOS the process(es) really are finished, just like on Windows or Linux.

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by miyoji »

PaulDavisThe1st wrote: post #42
StableAlkyne wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> These days I like to turn my work Mac off at the end of the week just so I feel a literal sense of closure It's also just nice to start Monday with a fresh boot. If nothing else, it keeps me from getting to the point of 200 tabs open that I'm totally definitely going to need again "soon"

200 tabs? The children of summer are still among us, it seems (he says, glancing at the current tab count of slightly over 1800).

Just close them. You're never going to read them. If you really think there's something you need, export the browser state to an archive file, then delete in 10 years after you've never consulted it once.

(Disclaimer: I'm aware that there may be valid reasons for this workflow, but in most cases it's just digital hoarding and the above advice is sorely needed. If you really need 1800 tabs, you know who you are and you can safely ignore me.)

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by arikrahman »

BoppreH wrote: post #72

This is actually useful for smartphones. Sometimes smartphone malware is capable of infecting a device but not persisting, so reboots clean it back up. At least if you trust the NSA's advice: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21018353/nsa-mobile-d...

This is one of the features I appreciate with OneUI, I can set it to automatically restart it in the mornings.

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by nok22kon »

zanecodes wrote: post #68
gonzalohm wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's the point of sleeping your computer? If you are not using it then it's better to just turn it off

So I don't have to spend 10-15 minutes saving all my open files (including the scratchpad ones I haven't named) and then later reopening all my applications, recreating all of my tmux windows and panes, setting up my vim splits and tabs again, and starting all of my stopped Docker containers?

funny, decent text editors like VS Code save even the unnamed unsaved files

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by LoganDark »

gonzalohm wrote: post #4

I don't have any data to prove it but I think Mac users don't bother "cleaning up" after they are done with their computers. I think windows and Linux users usually shut down their laptops when they are done. I believe this is because of how Mac is designed, nothing really closes. You close an app and it's just "minimized". Same behavior as with the lid, you close the lid and it suspends. If I recall correctly, at so…

I think what you're talking about is how on Mac, an application can stay running without having any windows. Separate from closing all the windows, you usually have to "Quit" the application if you really want it gone. This is useful for a couple reasons:

- You can "Quit" the application without closing all the windows, and then the next time you start the application, your windows can come back.

- You can close all the windows without "Quit"ting the application, and you don't have to wait for the application to load again in order to open a window later.

Additionally, since application lifecycle is managed separately from the open windows, apps can do cool things like saving and restoring the set of open windows through a system restart. Which Windows and Linux still haven't managed. (Maybe Windows can try to restart the processes... I think I saw that becoming an option more recently)

I've never rebooted often in general, even when I daily-drove Windows. Then, it was because it was annoying to get my preferred workspace back after a Windows restart. Now, I daily-drive macOS and I don't often reboot until the machine gets slow/janky because the machine doesn't really need a reboot until then. And I don't hate reboots as much as I would for Windows because macOS is a lot better at session restoration

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by LoganDark »

dwb wrote: post #94
gonzalohm wrote: post #4

I don't have any data to prove it but I think Mac users don't bother "cleaning up" after they are done with their computers. I think windows and Linux users usually shut down their laptops when they are done. I believe this is because of how Mac is designed, nothing really closes. You close an app and it's just "minimized". Same behavior as with the lid, you close the lid and it suspends. If I recall correctly, at so…

That is not true, when you close apps on macOS the process(es) really are finished, just like on Windows or Linux.

I think they think of "closing an app" as closing its windows, which on Mac does not always "Quit" the app.

Re: Have you restarted your computer this week?

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Post by genewitch »

ck2 wrote: post #21
1970-01-01 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>can't get struck by lightning or surges if the surge-strip is flipped off That's not how electricity works. Hot may be open but your ground and return is not.

that's an interesting thought but would violate physics for lightning to come in through the ground line?

i thought half of lightning came from the ground, like half the potential. Slow mo lightning strikes have them meeting in the center in the air, rather than striking from cloud to ground. I could be wrong.

Lightning hit an antenna that was disconnected but near a radio and blew up the radio, the PC it was connected to, and then everything connected to the switch that was connected to the PC via cat5, and just for good measure, everything connected to an outlet on that side of the house within 15' of the computer outlet. once it gets in, it doesn't matter if stuff is off or on or whatever.

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