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EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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> The heat wave has prompted a renewed discussion about the lack of air-conditioning systems in homes and offices across much of Europe Discussion, common sense requires discussion. All you need to know about them in one sentence.

Most ordinary working people can't afford the cost of installing a system. Even a portable one. Edit: Downvoted because HN users don't understand living paycheque to paycheque. Talk about an echo chamber.

It's not that expensive. There are other reasons why people can't install one in Europe than money. Mostly for people living in apartments. In an apartment building you need the approval of other apartment owners to "modify the building facade". And some people have terrible neighbors. Another thing that happens in Europe is that if the building is 100+ years old, it's facade may be protected as a "historic building" and then you need another approval from some bureaucrats which are responsible for protecting historic buildings. And of course if you're renting, you need to convince your landlord if you want a proper AC not a portable one.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most ordinary working people can't afford the cost of installing a system. Even a portable one. Edit: Downvoted because HN users don't understand living paycheque to paycheque. Talk about an echo chamber.

What are you on about. They are not expensive at all. What they can't afford is to pay the electrical bill of running one.

Ironically- while often having solar on the roof.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most ordinary working people can't afford the cost of installing a system. Even a portable one. Edit: Downvoted because HN users don't understand living paycheque to paycheque. Talk about an echo chamber.

A 12K BTU mini-split system is about 300EUR. How is this unaffordable for most people? Even an 18K unit is about 500-600EUR.

Realistically a decent mini-split that won't break in a year and won't make too much noise starts at ~€600-800 + €400 installation in a low-labor-cost country (Latvia), in high-labor-cost countries such as Germany the installation bit might be twice-thrice as expensive.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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post #4

> The heat wave has prompted a renewed discussion about the lack of air-conditioning systems in homes and offices across much of Europe Discussion, common sense requires discussion. All you need to know about them in one sentence.

Most ordinary working people can't afford the cost of installing a system. Even a portable one. Edit: Downvoted because HN users don't understand living paycheque to paycheque. Talk about an echo chamber.

> Most ordinary working people can't afford the cost of installing a system. Even a portable one.

I just watched a video where a person bought a £200 portable unit. He was using it in the UK and said he spent about £0.89 / day. And I'm assuming they won't use it for that many days a year.

Seems affordable enough for "most ordinary working people"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOmzVWTH3xo

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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> Due to extreme weather conditions, forced shut down of air cooling system from floor 1 to 7 for the rest of the day It's like satire. What is AC for if not extreme heat?

When there is not enough AC, people sweat. It’s better for half to sweat to death so the other half can remain frosty.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most ordinary working people can't afford the cost of installing a system. Even a portable one. Edit: Downvoted because HN users don't understand living paycheque to paycheque. Talk about an echo chamber.

What are you on about. They are not expensive at all. What they can't afford is to pay the electrical bill of running one.

My multisplit system costs <€60 a month to run even during the hottest months, which is way below heating costs during winter. And that's keeping entire apartment at constant 22ºC - people with higher "comfort temperature" can keep the bill significantly lower.

Re: EU commissioners shut down air conditioning for employees, leave theirs on

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"even with working AC, the temperature inside was still 25.7 degrees."

So 78F. I wonder what temp the lower/non-AC floors are at. It's reasonable if they want to prevent the upper floors from becoming insanely hot, since hot air rises.

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