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Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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> the internet, DNS, email, and the web were largely built by VC-backed companies Really ?

I am sure that DARPA, BBN, USC Information Sciences Institute, and many others will be overjoyed to learn that they've been erased from history by the new narrative that Venture Capitalists Built Everything. (-:

BBN was a private company...

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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This is great. The entire idea of AT is that users can move their data for any reason. We want more of this. But I do think it's always worth pushing back a bit on this idea: > "The way Bluesky is funded is at odds with the idea of decentralisation because the platform relies on venture capital and operates under a shareholder model." Large decentralized infrastructure like the internet, DNS, email, and the web was l…

>Large decentralized infrastructure like the internet, DNS, email, and the web was largely built by VC-backed companies.

The poor need the rich to start a company as banks are prevented (by the rich) from lending to them.

The rich like VC as it's a tax write-off, they invest in VCs and get even more richer.

Most startups fail, the VC's investors get any leftovers and poor founder walks off empty.

>What about when things go wrong?

In general, if you lose money on an investment, you can offset that “capital loss” against a capital gain you have from something else.

https://www.venturesouth.vc/write-offs

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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You might want to answer two questions before we start this discussion:

1. "Censored" by whom, and for whom?

2. "Censored" for which "right of center" views?

P.S. I should also mention that I can see the posts on that account, even if they all have flags for intolerance by the default moderation service (a service you can opt out of by the way).

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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So the "news" here is they're hosting their own PDS? I think that was the main point of Atmosphere and Bluesky was just a popular gateway to get people into it. Unless I'm missing something else...

That's the plan, but to get to actual decentralization, one of the steps is for more people to actually move their PDS's somewhere other than Bluesky. (They are not self-hosting; Eurosky is doing it.)

You won’t have decentralisation on Atproto because the protocol itself incentivises centralisation.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the internet, DNS, email, and the web were largely built by VC-backed companies Really ?

Yeah that raised my eyebrow as well. "Popularized" maybe, but "largely built" I think is a mis-characterization.

"Commercialized" is probably the word you want, and I'd agree with.

It turns out that commercialization is most of the work of creating a globally decentralized system. Which doesn't mean the non-commercial work wasn't critical.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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...As opposed to Twitter where I was banned for expressing an opinion that wasn't in line with the site owner's personal opinions. At least with Bluesky, you can opt out of their moderation.

Did your opinion call for the use of violence ? That is a no go zone.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am sure that DARPA, BBN, USC Information Sciences Institute, and many others will be overjoyed to learn that they've been erased from history by the new narrative that Venture Capitalists Built Everything. (-:

BBN was a private company...

A private company doing DARPA-funded research.

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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And what does this do safety/privacy-wise? Nothing, except make it more available. This is why I often argue against (or at least want to point out the dangers of) the ATProto/Bluesky model. It's an absolute boon for people who want heavy surveillance, government or otherwise. The looseness and "unreliability" of protocols like Mastodon ironically make them safer.

I am genuinely confused. Isn't the point of public social media to be... public? Or do you use BlueSky to talk to your friends, instead of Signal?

Re: We moved our Bluesky data to Eurosky

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Right-wingers are so reliably sore winners. X is still comfortably the dominant microblogging platform on the internet, Facebook and Youtube happily boost and feed right-wing content and concerns. Tiktok has been brought to heel. ATproto hasn't found a way to encode communism - just like activitypub could be used for Truth Social - the ATmosphere will turn right once the ecosystem is in anyway relevant politically or commercially. But you could always start quatrechan while we wait
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