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Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by unethical_ban »

ralferoo wrote: post #117

"... a foreign government using local police to eject reporters over a single question from a public space turned private at the will of the American government is not a minor diplomatic awkwardness." The fact it's a public space is kind of irrelevant here, if the landowners (the city council, I guess) decide to temporarily allow private use. If some roads had been closed for film production use etc, the police would…

Bad take. They didn't refuse to leave. The problem is they were asked to leave at all.

>Whether ejecting someone from a press event for asking a question you don't like is right or not (I personally think it's not) is irrelevant.

That's the core issue. It isn't irrelevant.

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by malfist »

jojobas wrote: post #109
malfist wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure you were. That's why your comment history is full of far right US politics posts, including anti-immigration.

I live in Australia and US trends reach us within 5-10 years. As a (legal) immigrant myself I'm not at all anti-immigration, I'm anti-unauthorized-immigration and anti-below-reasonable-wage-immigration. И да, я родился в совке и вырос в его смердящих останках, не думал, что мне придётся это доказывать какому-то херу из интернета, притом что мне абсолютно насрать, как он оценит моё, основанное на личном опыте, мнение.

For an australian from the soviet union, you sure do have strong opinions about teachers getting H1b visas in the US.

Я тоже умею пользоваться программами для перевода.

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by pelorat »

vrganj wrote: post #159
greenleafone7 wrote: post #141

What is weird in all of this is why is the US obsessed with israel so much exactly! Was it a random choice; did they had a random number generator pick it? Why are they not going to such lengths for other random countries in the opposite side of the world for example? And if an official's number one priority is not the people that pay him and have granted him his power, should he be in that position? The US is turnin…

* AIPAC is one of the biggest donors to US political campaigns. * Entanglement of tech industries * Israel serves as an outpost of US imperialism in the Middle East. * Shared understanding with fellow Settler-Colonialist state * On a related note, it's a country with a big white-reading population in a mostly brown neighborhood. * Evangelicals believe Israel is where the battle that rings in the Second Coming will ha…

AIPAC is more than a PAC. Mossad involvement is all but guaranteed.

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by mrhottakes »

sequoia wrote: post #229
vrganj wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* AIPAC is one of the biggest donors to US political campaigns. * Entanglement of tech industries * Israel serves as an outpost of US imperialism in the Middle East. * Shared understanding with fellow Settler-Colonialist state * On a related note, it's a country with a big white-reading population in a mostly brown neighborhood. * Evangelicals believe Israel is where the battle that rings in the Second Coming will ha…

People think AIPAC is some all powerful unique lobbying group, in fact they're not even in the top 10 major lobbyists. Did you know SpaceX gave 5x as much as AIPAC in 2024? AIPAC was also outspent by Coinbase, by Ripple, and several other companies[0]. And this "18th largest lobbyist" position is after a post-october-7 surge in spending. Pre-october-7 (2022) they were ranked forty sixth in terms of spending. Can you…

"You can't criticize lobbying unless you can name all the more active lobbyists" is a very strange concept. Have you thought this one all the way through?

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by cassepipe »

mcherm wrote: post #218
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #173

"The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting" Or reworded: "Belgian police stop our reporting simply because some foreign ambassador asked for it"

Yes, BUT... If, indeed, the park was rented out for a private affair and the person managing that affair asked that someone be removed from the property, then like any case of trespass, it is within the purview of the police to remove that person. It doesn't make the US look good, but I don't think it reflects poorly on the behavior of the Belgian police.

Could be but I am not sure belgian law is as trigger-happy with the whole trespassing thing. I wouldn't be surprised that lying to the police about someone being a threat in order to remove them form the private event you have invited them to would be a clear cut case

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by 8note »

rootusrootus wrote: post #233
cogman10 wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In fact, part of accepting a pardon is accepting guilt. That can particularly be consequential if there is a civil case associated with the criminal charges. For example, if I'm charged with drunk driving and I run into someone's house, by accepting a pardon I have to admit that I'm guilty of drunk driving which the home owner can then use in their civil suit to extra money for the damage I caused. This is part of th…

> part of accepting a pardon is accepting guilt Is that not a commonly misunderstood myth? You do not have to sign anything admitting guilt.

https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3...

different courts have said different things. the more recent courts have said it only removes the punishment

you were still found guilty, so the guilt is still there

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by mrhottakes »

mcherm wrote: post #218
MetaWhirledPeas wrote: post #173

"The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting" Or reworded: "Belgian police stop our reporting simply because some foreign ambassador asked for it"

Yes, BUT... If, indeed, the park was rented out for a private affair and the person managing that affair asked that someone be removed from the property, then like any case of trespass, it is within the purview of the police to remove that person. It doesn't make the US look good, but I don't think it reflects poorly on the behavior of the Belgian police.

The Belgian police are the ones following American orders.

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by cassepipe »

ralferoo wrote: post #117

"... a foreign government using local police to eject reporters over a single question from a public space turned private at the will of the American government is not a minor diplomatic awkwardness." The fact it's a public space is kind of irrelevant here, if the landowners (the city council, I guess) decide to temporarily allow private use. If some roads had been closed for film production use etc, the police would…

Are you speaking from the perspective of US law or are you familiar with belgian law ?

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by mmooss »

hector124 wrote: post #185
elric wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For context: he's accused Belgium of being anti-semitic because a couple of Orthodox Jewish mohels are being prosecuted for practicing illicit medicine (i.e. performing ritual circumcision without a medical license). The investigation started after a complaint was filed by a rabbi, so it's hard to chalk this up to anti-semitisim, but that's modern day US diplomacy for you.

It's considered very anti-semitic in America to be against male genital mutilation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Defamation_League#Circumc... When Iceland tried to ban it, the ADL had some very choice words about the potential consequences. > Greenblatt sent Iceland's Parliament a letter regarding a proposed infant circumcision ban in that country, arguing that the ban should be rejected due to circumcision's r…

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Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by pelorat »

JSR_FDED wrote: post #123
Waterluvian wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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The former Trump US ambassador to the Netherlands, Pete Hoekstra, claimed there were “no go zones” in the Netherlands where politicians and cars were being set on fire. He called it “fake news” of course, then denied having ever called it fake news, and then eventually claimed it was a mix-up of countries. Only the best people!

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