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Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by actionfromafar »

pyrale wrote: post #89
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #7

The Streisand Effect is taking effect in here in terms of surpressing a question has lead to many more people finding out about it, as it should be and I just find some layers of irony about America celebrating its freedom while this whole thing happens because of press freedom. I did some search on freedom250.org and found this interesting piece of TOS: YOU WAIVE AND HOLD HARMLESS THE COMPANY AND ITS AFFILIATES, LIC…

> The Streisand Effect is taking effect in here in terms of surpressing a question has lead to many more people finding out about it The reason why people like this don't care about the Streisand effect is that they are not afraid about a one-time scandal. The value they get out of harassing their victim and potentially having them stop reporting is worth a bad buzz that people will eventually forget.

Or not forget! They want people to remember that if you stuck your chin out, you're gonna get punched. Hard.

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Post by yubblegum »

buellerbueller wrote: post #224
yubblegum wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speaking of Jared Kushner, what has happened to our nation that this grifter twit is fronting one of the most strategically consequential negotiations on behalf of this nation? Is there any precedent in our history for what is going on these days?

>what has happened to our nation Politics became a social media-based reality show, replacing policy with vibes.

https://nitter.net/pic/orig/media%2FHL_G9ZGbwAAZrvi.jpg

That's what they want you to think. See the gent sitting down next to your elected VP? That is a "prince", a scion of an Arab FAMILY. The grifter twit standing over them? Another "prince", this time of a Jewish FAMILY.

They have goals; they have policy preferences, I assure you. Trillions of dollars are involved.

Let's just call a spade a spade: this is the emergence of Oligarchy International, sold to us as "a time of confusion because of media chaos".

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Post by rootusrootus »

cogman10 wrote: post #209
chmod775 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A pardon absolves one of the sin as if it didn't happen, legally. This is incorrect. A pardon is not an expungement. The conviction remains a usable historical fact and could still be referenced in later legal procedings. Exact ramifications vary between innocence-based pardons, rehabilitiation-based pardons, and pure discretionary clemency.

In fact, part of accepting a pardon is accepting guilt. That can particularly be consequential if there is a civil case associated with the criminal charges. For example, if I'm charged with drunk driving and I run into someone's house, by accepting a pardon I have to admit that I'm guilty of drunk driving which the home owner can then use in their civil suit to extra money for the damage I caused. This is part of th…

> part of accepting a pardon is accepting guilt

Is that not a commonly misunderstood myth? You do not have to sign anything admitting guilt.

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Post by cassepipe »

cogman10 wrote: post #209
chmod775 wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> A pardon absolves one of the sin as if it didn't happen, legally. This is incorrect. A pardon is not an expungement. The conviction remains a usable historical fact and could still be referenced in later legal procedings. Exact ramifications vary between innocence-based pardons, rehabilitiation-based pardons, and pure discretionary clemency.

In fact, part of accepting a pardon is accepting guilt. That can particularly be consequential if there is a civil case associated with the criminal charges. For example, if I'm charged with drunk driving and I run into someone's house, by accepting a pardon I have to admit that I'm guilty of drunk driving which the home owner can then use in their civil suit to extra money for the damage I caused. This is part of th…

IIRC it is why some people defending captain Dreyfus urged him not to accept a pardon

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by StefanBatory »

nashashmi wrote: post #40

More and more we see the relationship with authoritarianism (police) and tyranny (those in power) out in the open. We see this with the protests in Germany for Gaza. We see this in Britain with freedom of speech taken away from Palestine supporters. And we see this shamelessly occurring from the Trump world. I used to balk at those who were too worried at growing government power, but this is a wake up call. Protecti…

We see this in Britain with freedom of speech taken away from Palestine supporters.

Palestine supporters or "Palestine supporters"? Your freedom of speech ends when you sabotage military bases.

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Post by hector124 »

wil421 wrote: post #226
hector124 wrote: post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Certainly. The part I'm trying to draw light towards is American zionists' bizarre attitude towards circumcision and how eager they are to invoke claims of antisemitism when remotely challenged on it.

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Yes - on HN sometimes users use a "throwaway" account when they're commenting on a topic which is particularly charged. I'm surprised this isn't something you're familiar with!

I chose to use a throwaway because this topic in particular frequently invites accusations of ill-motivation, sort of like the one you were reaching for.

Re: The US ambassador had Belgian police stop our reporting

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Post by gwbas1c »

It's interesting to see a European perspective on this incident. They seem a lot more intent on avoiding political agendas than Americans are.

Usually incidents like this (in the US) come from activists who are very bad at "picking their battles wisely." In this case, I don't think a battle was picked going in, as there was an assumption of a fair dialog, and the way the police acted implies that they (police) were hoodwinked into doing something they normally wouldn't do.

A bigger question is, what is the expected outcome from this reporting? Is it that Brussels shouldn't welcome events like this? Is it that the US needs to elect different leaders?

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Post by pphysch »

sequoia wrote: post #229
vrganj wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* AIPAC is one of the biggest donors to US political campaigns. * Entanglement of tech industries * Israel serves as an outpost of US imperialism in the Middle East. * Shared understanding with fellow Settler-Colonialist state * On a related note, it's a country with a big white-reading population in a mostly brown neighborhood. * Evangelicals believe Israel is where the battle that rings in the Second Coming will ha…

People think AIPAC is some all powerful unique lobbying group, in fact they're not even in the top 10 major lobbyists. Did you know SpaceX gave 5x as much as AIPAC in 2024? AIPAC was also outspent by Coinbase, by Ripple, and several other companies[0]. And this "18th largest lobbyist" position is after a post-october-7 surge in spending. Pre-october-7 (2022) they were ranked forty sixth in terms of spending. Can you…

AIPAC is just the most well-known and representative entity in a large constellation of a hostile foreign lobby that has somehow avoided accountability under FARA.

Qatar didn't spend 9 figures getting Trump elected, but an Israeli gambling magnate did.

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Post by Hikikomori »

sequoia wrote: post #229
vrganj wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* AIPAC is one of the biggest donors to US political campaigns. * Entanglement of tech industries * Israel serves as an outpost of US imperialism in the Middle East. * Shared understanding with fellow Settler-Colonialist state * On a related note, it's a country with a big white-reading population in a mostly brown neighborhood. * Evangelicals believe Israel is where the battle that rings in the Second Coming will ha…

People think AIPAC is some all powerful unique lobbying group, in fact they're not even in the top 10 major lobbyists. Did you know SpaceX gave 5x as much as AIPAC in 2024? AIPAC was also outspent by Coinbase, by Ripple, and several other companies[0]. And this "18th largest lobbyist" position is after a post-october-7 surge in spending. Pre-october-7 (2022) they were ranked forty sixth in terms of spending. Can you…

So they're getting their moneys worth.
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