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Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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I think what upsets me the most isn't that companies do this, it's that no government seems to have any interest in stopping them.

To me, it should be a fairly easy, short, and extremely popular law that if you say you are 'selling' someone something, with a time-frame extremely clearly specified in a simple way, at least the same size as the price (say), you can't take it back later without giving a full refund. If they want to offer a multi-year rent, call it rent.

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these services are still ok for both suggestions and hard to find media I let the Deezer bot surprise me OPM and I absolutely loved it I also use it to listen to the Chinese rap, which would be a pain to get otherwise Otherwise their human curated playlists are real good But I agree with you, it's not how you "own" media. You only get the service to access media

I never heard Chinese rap - what would you recommend?

some of it is fun and creative, and you see it hasn't the same industry behind

FanKa is breaking a bone while singing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vx0A7ph_2w https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_WYTk3bC2o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMaS3a7W5us

While Skai isyourgod is living the dream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XD6ASbQtKxw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFkgMiQBpoI

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post #59

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I never heard Chinese rap - what would you recommend?

Idk and id check it out too, but French rap is dope too, no idea of the contents, sounds good

half of it is darkest dark punk roast, and sings about working in the drug dealing industry like it's shark tank, but to afford living in a wet flat with cockroaches while you have no future but to be killed or jailed before you turn 25

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73mlCqmupLo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z__d10yL48Y https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BugZjSBDNE8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPoSUBONal8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1R2etg__x1Y

half of it is trap music about getting the usual guns, sex and drugs like US rap

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdRE5jJUWhg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r9vJI5OiV8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3UBSa7-H0U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfFPtvX4xpQ

Pick your side (or not), but you'll never get into it without a streaming website as it's going too fast and in too many ways at once for physical distribution

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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I think what upsets me the most isn't that companies do this, it's that no government seems to have any interest in stopping them. To me, it should be a fairly easy, short, and extremely popular law that if you say you are 'selling' someone something, with a time-frame extremely clearly specified in a simple way, at least the same size as the price (say), you can't take it back later without giving a full refund. If…

The US Government - the de facto licensing wing for the Western World - enables it as it positively impacts the US balance of trade in the exploitation of copyrighted works.

So long as lobbying by the Disney Corporation and others is allowed, the concept of the Public Domain is vilified to the point of felony; whereas the likes of Eldred v Ashcroft call it out for what it is - corporate welfare at the expense of public utility.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eldred_v._Ashcroft

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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I think what upsets me the most isn't that companies do this, it's that no government seems to have any interest in stopping them. To me, it should be a fairly easy, short, and extremely popular law that if you say you are 'selling' someone something, with a time-frame extremely clearly specified in a simple way, at least the same size as the price (say), you can't take it back later without giving a full refund. If…

The trivial fix to this is to allow breaking of DRM.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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If you pay for this shit you are a fool. I dont even torrent shit sourced from steaming cus its so heavily compressed, not worth watching. People are giving real money to these services and they wont even provide enough bandwidth for decent quality.. Another point in favour of torrents, we get as much bandwidth as we need, no data centres required, just people sharing.

If everybody does it, there won't be entire categories of content pretty soon and we all lose (ie high quality studio music recording, it won't get done on shoestring enthusiast budget unless you want llms to make up parts of songs, and forget those AAA blockbusters).

I am often pirating myself due to convenience and access to broader content or in case of games no bootloader crap on my PC, but see this as an issue of license owners rather than providers (in this case studio canal).

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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post #37

The real issue here are the terms of the deal that allow Sony to revoke access to content at any time. If Sony only purchases a 5 year license to use a movie, then that expiration date should be communicated to the customer ahead of time. The idea that companies can take away games, movies, etc that you've paid for with the expectation you would have them forever is toxic for society.

Yes. If I have a 5-year lease on a building, I can sublease it to you for 5 years, but I can't offer to sell it to you.

I like the idea of making the digital libraries call it "subleasing" if you don't own it and making them support ongoing access if they want a button that says "buy."

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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I think what upsets me the most isn't that companies do this, it's that no government seems to have any interest in stopping them. To me, it should be a fairly easy, short, and extremely popular law that if you say you are 'selling' someone something, with a time-frame extremely clearly specified in a simple way, at least the same size as the price (say), you can't take it back later without giving a full refund. If…

The trivial fix to this is to allow breaking of DRM.

The trivial fix is to put the US government for an impossible choice: "uncopyright" all Disney movies by taking the stories and make better versions of each and every one of their movies with AI.

NOT to do it once, but to create a mechanism to do it 100 times if necessary. Because, once, they can just cheat in a court case (sorry I mean "explain the impact this would have to the judge"). And make sure to publish the algorithm. And if there are 100 versions, with version 101 easily produced ...

Then the US (and other) governments have to choose: either say AI produced works are not copyright-free, which will be a VERY serious problem for AI, or rights holder companies become worthless.

Either of those represent incredible losses for the US government, as well as for other governments that also haven't behaved very well at all.

To some extent this has already happened: commercial music providers (for supermarkets and ...) have all switched to AI "totally not based on copyrighted works" songs.

Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries

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If you pay for this shit you are a fool. I dont even torrent shit sourced from steaming cus its so heavily compressed, not worth watching. People are giving real money to these services and they wont even provide enough bandwidth for decent quality.. Another point in favour of torrents, we get as much bandwidth as we need, no data centres required, just people sharing.

If everybody does it, there won't be entire categories of content pretty soon and we all lose (ie high quality studio music recording, it won't get done on shoestring enthusiast budget unless you want llms to make up parts of songs, and forget those AAA blockbusters). I am often pirating myself due to convenience and access to broader content or in case of games no bootloader crap on my PC, but see this as an issue o…

"forget those AAA blockbusters" fine, they suck ass anyway, the producers and money men meddling in the creative process results in shit. If youre subscribing to giant services like netflix or spotify or whatever practically none of the money is going to the talented creative people who actually make the stuff anyway.

I vote with my wallet and never support DRM and shit I deem unethical. I go out of my way to directly support stuff I want to see more of.. supporting artists I like on Patreon, bandcamp, buying directly from them, etc. Also when I support stuff like that I do actually get the files.

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