Sony, surely you mean you're going to mail them a physical Blu-ray copy of each one they own, right?
Sony erases digital content from libraries
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#52We have so many of these discussions on HN already. Buy vs Rent. Digital vs Physical Ownership, Privacy etc. Yes we all have an opinion on that. I am more interested in a physical media that can keep its data for 80+ years, 500GB+, half the size of credit card and cheap to manufacture. At the moment, and looking at the pipeline of tech. There are none.
Why so extreme constraints? Why does it have to be half the size of credit card? I a personal server with 64tb space (5x16tb hard drives in a raid5) for movies etc. Been running for 4 years no issue, and I hope to run it for another 50-60 years with occasional disk replacement.
Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries
#53We have so many of these discussions on HN already. Buy vs Rent. Digital vs Physical Ownership, Privacy etc. Yes we all have an opinion on that. I am more interested in a physical media that can keep its data for 80+ years, 500GB+, half the size of credit card and cheap to manufacture. At the moment, and looking at the pipeline of tech. There are none.
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Re: Sony erases digital content from libraries
#54We have so many of these discussions on HN already. Buy vs Rent. Digital vs Physical Ownership, Privacy etc. Yes we all have an opinion on that. I am more interested in a physical media that can keep its data for 80+ years, 500GB+, half the size of credit card and cheap to manufacture. At the moment, and looking at the pipeline of tech. There are none.
Why so extreme constraints? Why does it have to be half the size of credit card? I a personal server with 64tb space (5x16tb hard drives in a raid5) for movies etc. Been running for 4 years no issue, and I hope to run it for another 50-60 years with occasional disk replacement.
Why so extreme constraints?
Because he's not looking for a solution. He's looking for someone to argue with.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I find DVDs mostly pointless now. I've started seeing some from around 2000 which are now unplayable.
I buy physical media, and immediately rip it to my Jellyfin library. The disc goes into a big case logic cd case, and the digital file gets backed up to two other places so there's almost an infinitesimally small chance I lose access to the content.
Of course you can skip all the intermediate steps and "back up" a copy from the internet - and obviously buy a copy later.
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#56I see no reason to pay this shit. When I need bad quality video streaming I just search for it on yandex.
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#57The core problem is licensing deals. And it's not just limited to movies, but games. Even the biggest juggernauts can't get out of this, with patches removing soundtracks [1]. A CD or DVD? That will hold the soundtrack for all of eternity (or at least as long as the physical medium survives), but for digitally bought games, it's ridiculous that content I paid for can just get silently patched away. [1] https://gamefa…
A simple solution would be to make licensing deals only apply to new purchases.
Yeah but that needs to be done by law.
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#58This is a weird framing and only furthers that argument. No, if you give money for something, that something is yours. It will violating a bunch of fundamental contract law understanding if the ownership status of what you buy is ever questioned.
Lets use a book, since it illustrate how ridiculous such assertions are. Ask yourself this question: why do you buy a book? For the paper, for the ink or for the information that it contains? Obviously the valuable thing for anyone is the information, the message, the communication of the author with you. Nobody really cares how the information reaches you, but that it reaches you. It is what motivates your purchase. When people buy digital content, they aren't buying the digital zeros and ones, they are buying the content.
And yet the format you supposedly don't care about is exactly what determines whether you keep any rights afterward. Take the same text in a printed book versus an ebook. Same author, same copyrighted content, same money changing hands. Buy the printed copy and you can resell it, lend it, leave it to your kids, no permission asked, because first sale doctrine protects whoever owns a copy. Buy the ebook and the platform's license language quietly reclassifies you as a non-owner, so none of that applies. The format from which the content is transmitted and distributed is irrelevant to why you bought it, but apparently decisive for what you're legally allowed to do with it once you have. The individual would never have started the purchase process if it didn't expect to own a copy of said content.
This is where every "but it's digital, so it is different" fails to address, and I believe deliberately and maliciously, it implies that value only resides in the material plane without considering the abstract.
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#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
these services are still ok for both suggestions and hard to find media I let the Deezer bot surprise me OPM and I absolutely loved it I also use it to listen to the Chinese rap, which would be a pain to get otherwise Otherwise their human curated playlists are real good But I agree with you, it's not how you "own" media. You only get the service to access media
I never heard Chinese rap - what would you recommend?
Idk and id check it out too, but French rap is dope too, no idea of the contents, sounds good
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#60I’ve bought a bunch of movies on appletv, and I think about how angry this would make me, but I’ve never looked into a decent backup solution. I’m not sure if the drm has ever been broken really, but I’d imagine some device could pretend to be an hdmi tv. Anyone ever backup their atv stuff?
Others have already backed up bit-for-bit copies on your behalf: you just need to download it from them piece by piece.
Bear in mind that you would likely be infringing on the rights of Apple since US law only permits backups for physical media.