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Should every baby's DNA be sequenced?

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Re: Should every baby's DNA be sequenced?

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Is it malicious to abort a baby before it has a heartbeat at six weeks because it will have Downs syndrome?

A few stats I just looked up on people with downs syndrome: - Over 90% of children are enrolled in public school. - 79% of those are in general education classrooms. - Approx. 50% of adults are employed.

50% is awfully low for today's system where you are employed or starving or someone else is your carer.

Re: Should every baby's DNA be sequenced?

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your class C adolescent has been identified as being an eligible kidney donor for a Class B worker, congratulations! please book into your nearest hospital within 2 days

This dystopian thought is wrong learning from dystopian fiction. I know it felt clever writing it, surely many found it clever cynicism, but in no way does it reflect real life kidney donations.

to call this outcome unrealistic, now or in the future seems incorrect as there is already a thriving pay for kidney trade.

https://www.dw.com/en/inside-a-global-organ-trafficking-netw...

it’s fair to say there would be great advances from such a programme, I’m personally in favour of medical surveillance generally for this reason but you have to be realistic about outcomes

Re: Should every baby's DNA be sequenced?

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In a dystopian, but emerging future, the answer is “Of course and attach it to their digital ID.”

It’s happening, isn’t it? And we’re just lazily walking toward it. Passkeys. They’re part of the move toward digital ids aren’t they? I bet we’ll see these digital ids bundle a password/key manager, instead of being inside one. And have your dna, faceid and touchid.

If I wrote this just 5 years ago, you’d think I was crazy. But now? Tsk.

Re: Should every baby's DNA be sequenced?

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The issue is where do you draw the line with 2)? What does "improve the genetic characteristics of your children" mean in practice? Everyone starts with 2) and then it creeps into 1).

There is no path that turns "I would like to terminate my pregnancy if the outcome is unfavorable" into "I would like to commit genocide on everyone whose genetics I do not like". Granted, someone who already wishes for or aligns with the idea of ethnic cleansing might start by only publicly sharing their wish for the former to begin with, but I don't see a sensible argument for it being a natural extension of the fo…

"I would like my child to not be deaf" -> "Many (most?) people would prefer their child to not be deaf" -> (3) "Deaf community shrinks" -> "Social support for deaf people is reduced/seen as not necessary" -> "Parents of deaf children are blamed for carrying out the child" -> "Parents are nudged (forced) to terminate the pregnancy" -> goto (3)

In a some way this is already happening (eg Judges forcing cochlea implants on babies while denying the parents support in learning/teaching sign language to the child)

Many people see this as an attack on the deaf community and their culture - and I have to agree.

Re: Should every baby's DNA be sequenced?

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I had a funny experience related to this. I was a driver in a car with middle-age mums and one of the things that came up in their conversation was a cold case being solved thanks to DNA evidence. Then the conversation quickly moved onto exactly this, i.e. how everyone should be screened at birth so we can all identify the perpetrator right away; and then this moved to how the CSAM scanning is a good thing and should be enabled worldwide and so on.

It made me feel a bit funny: I was the weirdo for being AGAINST this, and it seemed like any arguments I put forward were dead on arrival.

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